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CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« on: Feb 23rd, 2011, 3:33am »
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This is a re-post from another forum:
 
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(By "Mark": )
 
As a sequence on the 'Girls in pyjamas, boys in the buff' thread here is what a certain 'Older Jock" wrote on another forum after visiting a Russian family:
 
There certainly is a difference in the way that people from Russia and the Eastern block countries think of nudity when compared to the way that Americans think of nudity.
I was made aware of this from a personal experience when I went to visit a friend who is also a business associate. This friend is from an area near Moscow in Russia. He and his family have been in the United States for about 11 years.
The first night I was there, my friend and I, my friend's wife, their 19 year old daughter (who had also come from out of town to visit)and their next door neighbor were all in their living room. My friend and I were installing a new DVD player. Their 17 year old son who appeared to be very athletic, had gone out for a run and then returned. After his return, he went upstairs and took a shower.
Several minutes later, while we were watching a DVD so as to try their new DVD player, their son, after finishing his shower, came back downstairs completely naked and told us that he was going to bed. He then kissed his mother, sister and father and went back upstairs.
The following morning, I put on my clothes and went downstairs to the kitchen because I wanted a drink of water. In the kitchen, I found my friend, my friend's wife, their visiting daugher and their son. Both my friend and their son were naked. My friend was drinking coffee and their son was half sitting on a cabinet eating a bowl of cereal. Their daughter was sitting at the table talking with her mother.
As I'm sure you can imagine, this was a very strange sight to me but the fact that both the father and the son were casually naked in the kitchen apparently meant nothing to them. I had certainly seen my friend naked several times and he had seen me naked because we "worked out" and then showered together at the gym during a time before he moved away from where I lived at that time. Even so, it was still a surprise to my "American eyes" to see the two of them naked in the kitchen in front of his wife and daughter.
Sometime later, I told my friend that to me it seemed odd for him and his son to be naked in front of his wife and daughter in the kitchen. After hearing my comment, my friend had a somewhat confused look on his face and he asked "Why? They've seen us naked before." I then asked him if his wife ever goes naked in the kitchen, to which he replied "No that wouldn't be right for woman to be naked in the kitchen. It would not be respectful." I then asked why it was respectful for a man and not a woman. At this point my friend became impatient and said "That's a stupid question. It's because a man is a man and a woman is a woman. A man is not shy about his body like a woman. Women are shy about their bodies because that's the way they are made."
He then asked me if the nudity bothered me and if I think like a woman. He then started teasing me by pointing out a woman's clothing store which we were driving past and said, "We can stop there later and buy you some new clothes."
It's a completely different way of thinking as compared to the way most Americans think in this day and age.
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Re: CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« Reply #1 on: Feb 23rd, 2011, 6:34am »
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I think you are right, Ogden, male nudity seems to be of no consequence in many East European countries. I have seen several posts on different forums from men who were brought up in these countries who confirm this. On the other hand female modesty is always protected.
I will post a few examples if I find any that I have saved.
We have also seen this from examples on this forum by the way draft physicals of young men are performed in Russia and other E. European countries in front of non-medical females staff, and no one seems to be bothered about it.
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Re: CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« Reply #2 on: Feb 23rd, 2011, 9:35am »
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on Feb 23rd, 2011, 6:34am, Bobby_Bare wrote:
.........in front of non-medical females staff, and no one seems to be bothered about it.

 
I don't know if the (young) men are bothered about it or not, I guess it is more of a fact that is it acceptable and as something completely normal.
 
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Re: CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« Reply #3 on: Feb 23rd, 2011, 10:57am »
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 Allow me to reminis briefly. The area that I grew up in was very heavy in eastern europeans. Most everyone in my generations grandparents came from what was call THE OTHER SIDE, so we were second generation americans. There was also some whos parents were immigrants along with the mid 50s hungarians from the revolution who were refered to as refugees. I got to see some things as to what other cultures and societies were like.  
 Although it might have taken place, I never witnessed any household nudity. During the summer people would wear as little as possible, males in their underwear, females in full slips or very light house dresses, thats as far as it went. Bathing consisted of a tub, no showeres except outside summer time cold water ones. Males would shower at the factorys after work, all work places had a shower room. Bathing at home was for females and youngsters. Most households had the kitchen in the cellar, was not called a basement, where the whole family, even if in other houses, would meet up for dinner. This utilized the space, was the coolest place in the summer and the boiler kept things warm in the winter. None were finished, just painted concrete block walls.  
  This might not be the correct thing to say but I remember the families being more clean and neat than those whos roots went farther back. Was a pride in ownership thing. An example, storm doors were raw aluminum not painted. People would take the time to polish them where they looked like they were chrome plated. Another things stands out in my memory. $2 bills were still circulated as well as occasional real silver dollars. People who would sent letters back to what they called THE OLD COUNTRY, would slip a few $2 bills in the envelop. I never knew why they did not use singles or 5s, no one could tell me why, was just done.  
  Wish I could contribute more as to household nudity ( in this country ) but I cant. We boys did swim nude at the swimming hole. Can also add, mothers side of the family was south, mostly in the TENN. mountains. Some dirt poor, not to many clothes but nudity there was also restricted to swimming or bathing in a trought. Again, not nice to say but they were not as neat and orderly as were people closer to the european ways. Old black/ white movie, TOBACCO ROAD was closer to reality that what some might think.    LEO C
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Re: CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« Reply #4 on: Feb 23rd, 2011, 6:20pm »
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Ogden_eds:
If you get away from the idea that there should be equality between the sexes (which is most of history) it makes perfect sense why males should not be modest and women should.  Women are in danger of being sexually molested while men are not.  The only reason I can think of why men should be modest is that women are!  If males did not wear suits while swimming what would happen to them?  What would they be in danger of?  Would women molest them if they were naked?  Is there any real reason to be modest around the family?
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Re: CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« Reply #5 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 3:13am »
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I think this would be a good occasion to re-post the following:
 
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From: "Jenny Colleen Piper" <jennypeep@y...>  
Date: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:34 am
Subject: Russian Bath Houses
 
I have been learning that Russian Bath houses are an integral part
of the common person's life and a social meeting place just like
Pubs are here in the UK.
Today, on the History channel (Digital), footage was shown of a nude
man joining two women in a dip pool who were both wearing one piece
swimsuits. Their greeting of each other was cordial and friendly,
the man getting into the pool quickly almost as if a little
embarrassed by his nudity.
 
This is real cfnm and must be happening now in everyday life. If
anyone else knows anymore, please post on this subject.
The bath house shown exists today on Borodin st (hope thats the
correct spelling) Moscow.
 
 
 
From: "Jenny Colleen Piper" <jennypeep@y...>  
Date: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:51 am
Subject: more travel experiences
 
....When travelling in Russia be sure to visit the Bath-House or
Banya as it is known. Most offer Russian, Turkish baths, saunas,
water treatment and showers. The standard of each varies greatly and
be careful as some are mixed sex where you will find that men mostly
take their relaxation in the nude. The one I visited had its own
children's area and first rate individual rooms with showers for
women. I was offered the use of the 'public area' but realised with
horror that the local men who frequented this area thought nothing
of being nude amongst mothers and women of all descriptions. I did
not see any women in the public area without the benefit of a swim
suit.
Marion
 
 
 
From: "Jenny Colleen Piper" <jennypeep@y...>  
Date: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:06 am
Subject: Russian Banya's
 
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Kitezh:
Most houses have running cold water and indoor toilets. Currently
you will find only three showers with hot water in the whole of the
Kitezh community. This is because washing is done usually twice a
week in the communal Bath house. The 'Banya' consists of a sauna a
pool and hot water convenience. Usually, men and women will visit at
separate times but once a week a communual day exists. On this day
you may wear a bathing suit if you wish, although the Russian way is
to go without one, particulary the men.
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Re: CFNM home lifestyle in Eastern Europe
« Reply #6 on: Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:32am »
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I think Leo does have a point. Although male nudity is common and accepted in social circumstances, like some beaches or summer camps or public bath houses as mentioned by Ogden, or in institutions, it seems that family nudity at home is not so acceptable in Russian society.  
In fact the few Russian families I know do not practice nudity of any kind at home that I know of. Athough we know that the acceptance of nudity, especially male nudity, seems t be no big deal in Russian culture and society in environments outside of the home. One can see this in Russian movies, even children's movies, where male nudity is common. It is also the same in Scandinavian countries, which is similar to Russian culture, where nudity, especially male nudity, is not seen as a big deal.
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This is a fantasy. Russians have bad attitude for nudity, especially for male's. Nobody (except several nudists) walks nude in home, this is nonsence and improperly. Sons shy mothers and sisters very much. Boys rather die than show their body before woman's eyes. Russians today are very intolerant for nudity, they don't support naturism. Naturist beaches are closing and repressed since the middle of 2000th. Young modern Russians easily take American traditions of shy, and feel shame even in gym shower, and wear long swimming shorts.
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