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Lost a bet
« on: Dec 8th, 2010, 7:17am »
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Hello. I am new here, so I did not know whether to post this on the discussion board or the photo board.  
 
Last week I lost a bet I made with my friends, and as a return they bought me a pink thong and I was to do some shopping in this small store. Luckily there were no other customers. But when I wanted to pay, this older lady was happily smiling when I walked towards the counter. But the experience did not stop there, when I walked out of the store, two girls went inside and kept laughing and looking as I walked casually away towards the car. My friends ofcourse rolling on the floor laughing.  
 
I always try to be confident, but I was really nervous doing this. But it was a real thrill. To be seen almost completely naked by these women really gave me an energy rush. At home I did some searching on the internet and found that this was called CFNM. I never heard of it before, but I like it Smiley
 
One of my friends filmed it and posted it on youtube. At first I was not happy with it, but after seeing it I think its quite funny and I thought to share it on this board.  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfVQ9ME3A0o
 
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #1 on: Dec 9th, 2010, 10:59pm »
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Sounds like you had a fun experience there. Glad the ladies enjoyed the view - I'm sure it made for a memorable night. The video evidence was a nice touch, too. You're a brave man!
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #2 on: Dec 10th, 2010, 5:21am »
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Well, well, Ralph u really know how to fill out a thong  Roll Eyes
 
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #3 on: Dec 11th, 2010, 12:20am »
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Holy Christ you're smoking hot, Ralph.  And pink is so your color.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #4 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 2:52am »
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Thanks for the compliment Caspen. I am not so sure about the pink though  Wink
 
But my looks have noticed people before. Even my parents are saying that I should try book modeling jobs. But what they do not know is that three years ago when I just turned 18, needing money, I did a nude photo shoot for a student gay magazine. The photoshoot it self was very professional, but I feel very embarrassed about it, and I am afraid that when I start modeling it might turn up.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #5 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 4:04am »
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So you did a photo shoot for a gay mag  - what's the problem? Maybe you're personally embarrassed, but that shouldn't stop you from doing some more modeling if that's what you want to do. Your take on that should be that it was just another modeling job, you needed the money, what's the big deal? Professional models do a lot of stuff that they may not personally be entirely comfortable with but they do it because it's their job.
 
Go for it if that's what you want, and forget about the past - it's another country, as they say.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 11:41am »
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I guess you are right about that SteveH. There is not really a reason to be embarrassed about the two photos in the magazine. But I still am embarrassed. Not because I did a nude photoshoot, because I am quite comfortable with being nude. But because I am more embarrassed for the reason I took off my clothes. I didn't go naked for the sake of art, but for a gay student magazine. It feels so weird to know that there are people who wanked off on seeing my naked bum in that magazine.  
 
So to walk towards my parents and show them the two photos. 'Mom, Dad. There is something I need to tell, your son posed naked in a gay student magazine'. That might be the most embarrassing thing in my life, even more embarrassing then walking in a store in just a pink thong.
 
But thanks for the advice SteveH. I probably should apply at a agency and see if I can book some jobs, while trying to hide my embarrassing past.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #7 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 1:20pm »
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Honestly, Ralph, I think you should be proud of what you have. So you posed nude for a gay student magazine - there's no shame in that, I don't think. If anything, that's something you could take pride in - they liked your body enough to include it in that magazine.
Evidently, from the reactions around here, you certainly have the physique to model. Maybe you could look at modeling for an art class? That would be a good way to try it out and see if it's something you'd enjoy. Plus, as you mentioned in your previous post, it would be for the sake of art, which is a nice bonus. Then, once you decide if it's right for you, you can try applying at an agency.
Just out of curiosity: are those photos just rear shots? Because, honestly, I don't think you have anything to be ashamed of if you had pictures taken of your butt. If you're going to be modeling, chances are it'll show up eventually anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 5:10pm »
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Undieguy,
Ofcourse I am proud and feel lucky of what I have.  
 
Modeling for an art class has been a fantasy for me for a long time now. I think (if your lucky to pose in front of just women) it is the ultimate CFNM experience a man could have. I have been reading some of the older posts on this board, and I see there are alot of art class CFNM experiences. It would be nice to try that out indeed. However being it a sexual fantasy that I have, there is a pretty big chance I get an erection once I start posing. And the art class might get the wrong idea if I am standing there with a boner in front of them.  
 
To answer ur question.
Yes the two photos which made it into the magazine were fortunately just rear shots. At first they told they also wanted to do a frontal shot, and asked If I felt comfortable enough to do a erection shot aswell (which I ofcourse declined). But apparantly the photographer was quite impressed with my buttocks, so yes just rear shots were taken.  
 
I just scanned one photo from the magazine on my pc, and show it here. Is this the kind of photo of yourself u would show to parents who are not that open minded about nudity?
 
Would like to know what u think about it.  
 
 
 
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #9 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 5:12pm »
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So to walk towards my parents and show them the two photos.

 
Whatever for? Seems totally unnecessary to do that  - are they ever going to come across these? I don't know your parents, but that seems highly unlikely. Put it behind you.
 
As advised by others, try some life class or other modeling to see if you enjoy it. If you get some work, then you can tell your parents about it and be completely up-front about being naked - it goes with the job.
 
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #10 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 5:47pm »
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Wow - yes, based on your photo, Ralph, you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. I think that's a pretty tasteful photograph, to be honest - yes, it was for a gay student magazine, but it doesn't look seedy or anything by any means. If anything, it's a great shot that emphasizes your assets (no pun intended).
 
As SteveH said, though, there's no reason you need to share these pictures with your parents. What you do is none of their business. If you feel like telling them, then by all means do it, but don't feel obligated to do so if you're not comfortable with it.
 
Now, the art modeling thing... well, from what I've heard, an erection is not the end of the world. If it happens, it might be a bit embarrassing, but the students understand that it's a natural reaction. From what I hear, in most cases you're too focused on keeping a pose to actually get aroused. To be honest, the only reason I haven't done any modeling myself is because I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to hold the pose long enough without cramping up. I've been practicing, though!
 
So, yeah, bottom line is, if modeling is something you want to do, then you should really consider doing it. However, you shouldn't do anything you're not comfortable with, either. Since you've already posed nude once, though, it seems like you might be comfortable with the idea - it's just your relationship with your parents that's worrying you. Am I right?
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #11 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 1:49am »
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Oh My God. Tell me at what art school your going to pose naked and I sign up. No serious, Your ass is just beautiful. If your body is that developed at the age of 18, it can only be better now?
Wit a body like that u can walk naked in a shopping mall without feeling ashamed.  
 
I have to agree with Undieguy about the photo. It is indeed tasteful done, however you can see that it is intended to serve as eye candy for the female and the gay male. If my eyes are not letting me down, I can see your penis between your legs, or at least a part of it. I do not know if that was intended by the photographer, but it shows that the intention of the photo was indeed not for art, but to tease the viewer (which I certainly am). And for that reason I would not show it to your parents. What are the odds they will find out about the photos?
 
That might sound like strange advice, being a mother myself, but I think it's the best thing to do.  
 
It seems like your comfortable with being naked, so I would just start with taking art classes and perhaps for bachelor parties. But remember if you start modeling not all the jobs you book will involve nudity. Good luck!
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 11:42am »
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Undieguy,
You are right about the relationship with my parents. I am 21 and an adult, but I still feel like I need the approval of my parents for certain things. But I have made the decision to just tell them about the nudity of the past and possible future plans, and not show them the photos of the gay magazine. And If they do ask about the photos I just hope to bluff myself out of trouble with saying that I do not posess a copy of the magazine.  
 
As for the art class. It's really a serious option now. I know of an art school nearby and hopefully they might need a new model.  
 
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Yes, I am comfortable with nudity. I did the nude shot, and I like to walk around naked in the house aswell. But I think the difference is that the nude shot was for just three other males. Ofcourse the people present at the photo shoot were gay, and they might ofcourse have experienced the shoot in a sexual way. But it was small scale. Posing nude for maybe 15-20 students of my age is something I might back out of in the last minute. But I will see. It could be a great CFNM experience If I decide to do so.  
 
I hope you can hold the poses long enough in the future, and would love to read about your art class experience.  
 
Likes2Control,
Thanks for the compliment. I think when I was 18 my body was indeed in perfect shape. However when I was about 19 I stopped working out and started partying. Only recently have I been working out again, to try to get back in shape.  
 
As for the photo. It was indeed with a pornographic intent. To take the photo from that angle and show just a part of my penis was his intention. The other, which I did not scanned, was even more erotic.  
 
And what do you mean with bachelor parties? Like being a naked butler for a group of women? I like that idea.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #13 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 10:54pm »
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I understand about feeling the desire for your parents' approval. If you feel comfortable telling them about your modeling past, then go for it. Don't do anything you're not comfortable with, though.
 
As for art class, I say go for it. If you're nervous about coming up with poses, you can always buy an art model's handbook. I bought one when I applied to model down at school (they never called me) and it was great guide for a beginner.
 
Being comfortable with nudity is definitely a great start for a model. I'm assuming when you say you like to walk around your house naked that your parents aren't present - otherwise I'd fail to see the problem with the photos.
 
I believe what Likes2Control might have been referring to with the bachelorette parties was modeling for them. Sometimes they hire models to draw as kind of a naughty activity, or so I've heard. I suppose there's also the possibility of stripping, but I'm not sure if that's what she had in mind.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #14 on: Dec 15th, 2010, 12:50am »
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Oh, fook.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #15 on: Dec 15th, 2010, 4:03am »
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When I see on a photo such cute buttocks naked, I regret that the nudity in group  of teenagers and young men is no more the rule in some situations as high school physicals, college physicals, sport physicals, or draft physicals.
 
Even if each boy or young men has not so beautiful buttocks and is not so pleasant to view when exposed naked, there are obviously always some guys who are like that in a large group. I remember well of my own military physicals performed in the nude and some guys had beautiful buttocks round and firm.
 
I understand also more why some female nurses or female clerks  try and succeed  to be present at boys and young men physicals in some countries.
 
If I were a woman, I would like to see such young guys naked and more over in situations where they were naked under control, it would be certainly  more funny even if unfair.
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 4:01am »
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Undieguy,
Yesterday I went to the art acadamy and I applied for modeling. The woman who I spoke to seemed very positive, and did not mind I had no previous experience. She said that there almost no guys of my age who are willing to pose naked for an art class. She will call me later this week about possible dates I could model. So I keep my fingers crossed.  
 
As for the walking naked around the house. Well I sleep naked, and until I was about 16 I would walk down naked to prepare my breakfast and then go back upstairs again. As both my parents work, and we recently have a housekeeper I put on some underwear now as that is more appropiate when I go downstairs.  
 
easter_man_10,
I don't exactly get your point. I am glad you like my 'cute' buttocks. But groups of young men being naked happens quite often after sports when showering. Speaking for myself, after sports me and my friends go take a shower. And I can tell you that there are alot of other guys who have even more round and firm buttocks than I have.
 
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 10:57am »
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Congratulations, Ralph! I'm sure they'll be happy to have you for the art classes. You'll definitely have to tell us how things go. There was a surplus of models down at my school, so I wasn't surprised that I didn't get called back, but it sounds to me like they're in desperate need for guys where you are.
 
I totally understand about walking around the house naked now. I do the same thing myself in the summer, when it's warm enough to actually do that. Our house gets so cold in the winter that I don't dare try it. Depending on whether you wear boxers or briefs (or, come to think of it, that pink thong, haha) you could be giving that housekeeper quite a show. I'm sure she enjoys it (assuming, that is, that it's a she).
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 3:36pm »
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lol. Well the girl I am currently dating is really fond of the pink thong, so I keep it just for her  Wink
 
As for the housekeeper she is I believe 35 or 36 and a pretty hot MILF. I wear both briefs and boxers. But briefs usually just when I go to sport. So on one morning when she just started to work at our house, I did not know she was around and I came downstairs in just my white briefs. So when I walked in on her, I apologized and she said it was no problem. So I made my breakfast in my underwear while she was still working around me. It was a pretty hot situation, however as I wore clothes not really CFNM, but still worth mentioning I think.  
 
But now I just come down in my boxers and it has become very normal for both of us. It would be quite awkward for her if I would suddenly come down again in briefs (or in the pink thong :p). I do however notice that lately she is wearing shorter skirts and is showing more cleavage (not that I mind). Not sure if that is her intention, but I aint complaining. She has great thighs and I am sure she is quite the goddess in bed, but I dont think that is gonna happen.
 
I keep it updated about the art class. I Don't know yet when I have to pose, but I am already quite nervous
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #19 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 5:08pm »
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> but I dont think that is gonna happen.  
 
Given enough visual stimulation by seeing you in the house over an extended period of time will  push the posibility very close to 100%.  As discussed on the board in several places it has happened when least expected.
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 5:54pm »
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Ralph, are you blind? I assume it is the inexperience of a young guy like you, so I can forgive you.  
 
If a women in her thirties is seeing a hot guy like you in his underwear numerous times, she definitely gets teased and aroused by that. And her dressing different is ofcourse a reaction to this. Speaking for myself, and I guess for more women on this board. We women desire younger male flesh. So when we have the chance we take it (well I am happily married, but ofcourse it remains a sexual fantasy). I get aroused just by seeing that photo of your butt, so imagine the housekeeper seeing you like that several times a week. I am surprised she didn't rip those briefs of you the first time she laid eyes on you.  
 
I agree with Robert, that it could happen when you are not expecting it. There is ofcourse the quite big age difference which might be an obstacle.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #21 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 9:09pm »
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Ralph, I forgot to add to my previous message to have a small supply of condoms hidden away for the unexpected moment.   If that unexpected moment happens let us know.    
 
Likes2control is right that you are doing a small tease  to her.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 4:08am »
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Robert, the supply of condoms is not gonna be the problem.  
 
For me the age difference is not a great issue. I have done it with an older woman before, and it was great.  
 
Likes2Control,
I dont see it as teasing her. She might be experiencing it as teasing, but that is not my intent. It just is my morning routine. We have a friendly relation. As we always have a nice little chat in the morning when I prepare my breakfast.  
Also if it would come to sex, and if my parents would find out, she probably gets fired and I don't want to do that to her.  
 
I do have several cfnm fantasies about this situation. Like pretending to have no towel after I showered or indeed walking in on her in my pink thong as a joke.  
 
I like it, that you as an 'older' woman getting aroused at seeing my naked buttocks, but remember that the photographer took the photo of the best possible angle. So it's not like the housekeeper gets that view of me.
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 9:41am »
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Ralph, I'm with you in that it would be best just to keep this a friendly relationship. You wouldn't want to cost her a job just to fulfill a fantasy. That being said, I don't see why you couldn't strut around in your briefs - that would certainly make her morning more enjoyable. In fact, since you say you usually have a little chat, you could mention your possible modeling gig - she might encourage you to strip off just so you could practice.
 
Then again, you know her and your relationship with her better than the rest of us. Still, I'd go with the briefs - you've done it before, right? I'd say, as long as you have the toned body, you might as well flaunt it. As usual, though, don't do anything you're not comfortable with.
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 4:45pm »
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I never thought of it that way. I am sure she will notice the change from boxer to tight briefs, but I don't think she will mind that.  
 
I already mentioned to her that I was trying to pose naked for an art class. She was very positive about that, and thought it was a brave thing to do. But unfortunately she didn't encourage me to strip off. But I could tell her next time that I am nervous to be naked in front of so many clothed people. That might lead to something.  
 
I did however made a huge mistake yesterday. I told her about the bet I lost and showed her the video. We both laughed alot about the video and she (I think as a joke) asked if I still had the thong. I replied with just saying yes. That could have been a possibility to go upstairs and to put it on and come back down again as a joke. I kinda regret that I didn't do that.  
 
I think it is indeed the best thing to keep it a friendly relationship. However a relationship with a slightly erotic edge. She apparantly likes to see me walk around in my underwear, and I like to be seen by her in my underwear. And I think its best to keep it like that. Ofcourse I can make no guarantees if the opportunity is to occur.
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 10:22pm »
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Definitely go with the briefs, Ralph. Like I said, you got the body, so you might as well show it off. And since you mentioned the thong, I doubt she'd be all that surprised if you decided to wear that, too, though I think I'd take it one step at a time. Going from boxers to a thong overnight might be a bit jarring.
 
You might consider saying something about being nervous about the nudity in front of a group, maybe even adding something about trying to get comfortable with being naked for extended periods of time. She might drop a hint about stripping off - you never know!
 
I know what you mean about liking to be seen in your underwear - I have a few experiences from college that fall into that category. Perhaps I should save those for another time, however. In the meantime, I wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide to do, and of course I hope you get called on that modeling gig!
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #26 on: Dec 18th, 2010, 5:02pm »
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Hello, I am Angelie and 24 years old. I have been lurking on this board for quite some time now. And really enjoy reading the stories on this board. I never felt the need to make an account myself.  
 
But now I have to! Maybe it is just me, but I can't see your youtube video anymore Ralph. Judging on the photo you are a very sexy boy with a little cute ass, so if your thong video is still out there, I would like to see it.  
 
And about the art class (which I think you should do, even if it is for the sake of art!), I have a little story I like to share myself.  
Me and some friends took an art workshop about 2 years ago. It was a three hour instruction about how to draw a nude figure model. The male model was not a young guy like you, but an older person, about 40 I think. For his age I don't think he was that ugly but he was really really hung. So seeing that we ofcourse were all whispering and laughing. That must have been quite embarrassing for the model.  
I don't want to say that the same thing will happen to you when you pose nude. As of what I read you have applied at an art school, and not just for workshops. So the students there will be more focused and probably more serious about what they are doing. But still, the students will probably be of your own age and they might laugh and talk when they see a handsome guy like you standing naked in front of them. So I think you must be mentally strong to stay focused if that is to occur to you.
 
Good luck, with whatever you decide to do.
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Re: Lost a bet
« Reply #27 on: Dec 18th, 2010, 6:16pm »
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Hi Angel. †Welcome to the board.
 
I think most people laugh to cover a kind of shock or flabbergast (I went all through the thesaurus tring to find the right word, and it's still not right). †Cheesy †I would say "squirming," but only it's a pleasant squirming. †I think it's rooted in their body's reaction to the nude situation.
 
I would feel a lot worse if people left the room to hock up lunch. †Grin I say go for it, Ralph.
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« Reply #28 on: Dec 19th, 2010, 3:47am »
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Hello Angelie. Thanks for the compliment.
 
I am sorry about the video. I asked my friend to delete it, as I was kind of afraid that my family was going to see it aswell. And that could be quite embarrassing at family parties. But it was just a 20 sec video with not much to see.  
 
Thanks for sharing your own art class experience, and thanks for the possible warning. But the students giggling and talking is not my greatest fear. I am pretty confident about my body, and especially if I have to strike a pose with my butt facing them, I think the giggling will only be in a positive way. My greatest fear is to get an erection while posing.
 
I have already decided I will do it, just waiting for the phonecall/email
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« Reply #29 on: Dec 20th, 2010, 12:14am »
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I'm assuming you didn't get a chance to try out your briefs in front of your housekeeper this weekend, Ralph. If your situation's at all like mine, your parents' presence interfered. Hopefully you'll get a chance this week, though, and perhaps even get a call on the modeling gig.
 
As you were saying, I wouldn't worry too much about giggling at an art school. The kids are there for art, and they'll take it seriously. And, as I said before regarding the erection issue, you'll most likely be too nervous to get aroused. You certainly have our support in this endeavor!
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« Reply #30 on: Dec 20th, 2010, 7:27am »
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To bad Ralph. So the video is for us girls lost forever  Cry
 
Will you be so kind to scan the other nude photos from the magazine, and show it here? I will be forever grateful if you do  Roll Eyes
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Angelie,
I still have the video on my pc, and I am quite sure my friend has it as well for possible future blackmailing. But it wont be uploaded again. Sorry.
 
As for the other nude shot. I don't think I will scan it and show it here on the board. It is more revealing than the other photo and my face is clearly visible. So I don't want that photo to be around the internet. So sorry for that aswell lol.  
 
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This morning I had the chance to walk around in my briefs. But it went one step further.  
 
The girl I am currently dating stayed over tonight. So this morning I went down to make breakfast for the both of us. So when I got out of bed I indeed put on the white briefs. My gf said that I shouldn't put it on yet, as she wanted to have some more after breakfast. I explained her that the housekeeper was downstairs. She was surprised I would walk down in just my underwear, but I said she had seen me dozens of times like this.  
So when I came downstairs I was hoping the housekeeper would notice my change from boxers to the white brief, but she didn't. She asked if she could go upstairs to do some cleaning there. To which I replied that my gf was upstairs and we first wanted to shower. So we had a little chat about my gf and I then went upstairs with the breakfast. During the chat I had quite a bulge, so I hoped she would notice that. But she never looked down unfortunately.  
So after the breakfast, first my gf took a shower. I was naked in my room waiting for her to be finished. Apparantly the housekepeer thought I was in the bathroom as well and wanted to quickly sweep my room with the hoover. I heard her near my door. So my heart was kind of pounding. I did not expected her to come in, but still I thought to put on some clothes for just in case. But on the other hand I wanted to exploit this situation and thought it could be a great sensation for both her and me. So when I heard her hands at my door, I quickly went to a position in my room where she could have the best view. When she opened the door I was bending over the bed to supposedly pick my clothes for the day. She immediately apologized and closed the door. Realizing I made quite a mistake I went after her. I picked up a shirt to cover my front with. So on the corridor I confronted her with saying that I didn't mind at all. She apologized again. And then while we were talking my gf came out of the bathroom completely naked aswell, being surprised I was there naked talking to the housekeeper. I took her to my room and explained the situation. Later I asked the housekeeper not to mention this to my parents. She smiled and agreed. So fortunately this experience has not harmed the relationship with my gf and the friendly relationship I have with the housekeeper. Even though she might probably look at me in a different way now.  
 
I felt really guilty and bad when the experience happened, but while typing it now, it kinda makes me laugh about it. And hopefully she has forgotten about it tomorrow.  
 
As for the art class. I still haven't heard anything from the school. But I keep this thread updated about that. As I will need some advice from the people of this board who already have experienced and art class, either as the model or as the artist.
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« Reply #32 on: Dec 21st, 2010, 1:03am »
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Well, well, well - looks like you had quite a day, then, didn't you? Got to show off your briefs, and you had a chance to get seen naked. I doubt the housekeeper will forget it by tomorrow, though I don't think she'll say much about it. I'm just glad it all worked out for you, and I hope you keep up with the briefs - some form-fitting undies are just what the doctor ordered in this situation, methinks.
 
Please, do tell of any future events - your stories have been quite entertaining over the past week or so.
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« Reply #33 on: Dec 21st, 2010, 5:14am »
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I understand about the video and the photos Ralph. But it was worth trying  Grin
 
I like reading your story. The housekeeper must have got quite a view when you stood there bent over.  
I think you are quite lucky your girlfriend understood your explanation about being naked in front of the housekeeper. She could have interpreted it as an attempt to hit on the housekeeper, especially she being the milf like you said.  
 
In one of your previous posts you mentioned you wouldn't mind having sex with the housekeeper. But you having a girlfriend, wouldn't that be just cheating on her? I understand a guy like you must have plenty of female attention, but that doesn't give you a free card to just have sex with everyone. You could be a bit more loyal and respectful to your girlfriend on this matter.
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Yes I have quite alot of female (and male) attention. And yes I have had sex with quite a few women in my life so far. But look at it from my perspective Angelie. The women who are after me are not looking for a meaningful relation. Of all the girls I have dated just one had really the potential to be 'the one'. But she went abroad for study. Basically every other girl was just after me for my body and to have sex. Ofcourse I exploit that, and enjoy dating the pretty girls, often to the jealousy of my mates. As for the girl I am currently dating it is the same story. Yes it is great fun together, but we both know this is not gonna last. So if I am with a girl I am really fond of, ofcourse I am loyal and respectful to that girl. I am not like a male prostitute or something.
 
That having said. I made a photo of myself in my white briefs. I didn't include my face on the photo, for the reason I explained before. I hope you enjoy it.  
 
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« Reply #35 on: Dec 22nd, 2010, 2:16am »
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It was not my intent to call you a male prostitute, or to insult you in any way Ralph.  
I understand it now. A shame you had to cut off the relationship with the girl who went abroad. But I am sure you will find another 'meaningful' relation.
 
I do not hope I am getting to personal here, but I have some questions.  
What do your parents think of it that you come home with this many different girls? And has your mother ever interrupted you while having sex?
And as for the female attention. Have you ever been in a position where you had to go after a girl, or have they always been after you?
You also mentioned male attention. Have there ever been gays hitting on you? and if so, what you think of that?
 
 
BTW on that photo you are really yummy. Your butt looks sexy in those briefs. I would just want to grab those round buttcheeks with my hands.
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« Reply #36 on: Dec 22nd, 2010, 9:07am »
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So those are the briefs you're walking around in now? Wow - you really pull them off. Lucky housekeeper indeed. I have some briefs like them that I wore when walking around the dorms down at school. Always got some good revelations then.
 
I'm just curious, Ralph - are you still a student at the school where you modeled for the magazine, or have you since graduated? I don't mean to pry into your business, but I was just wondering about your current situation. Are you looking to model just to make some money on the side, or do would you want to make this a career? Based on your pics, I'd say both are viable options at this point.
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I would just want to grab those round buttcheeks with my hands

 
Trust me, alot of girls have done exactly that †Wink
 
What do your parents think of it that you come home with this many different girls?
Well they think I should stop dating all these girls and start having a real relationship. But the right girl has not come by yet.
 
And has your mother ever interrupted you while having sex?
No. She knows when I am with a girl on my room, not to go in. She did caught me masturbating once when I was like 17. But I think that has happened to everyone.
 
Have you ever been in a position where you had to go after a girl, or have they always been after you?
Well usually they are chasing me. That has been ever since I was a child. Leaving notes at my house etc. But if I really am interested in a girl, then yes ofcourse I go for her. Even if I am doomed to fail.
 
Have there ever been gays hitting on you? and if so, what you think of that?
Yes many times unfortunately. It feels very uncomfortable them hitting on you. One guy actually once tried to kiss me. But I whooped him away.  
But its quite a sad story about my former best friend. He came out of the closet a few years ago, and admitted he had a crush on me for some time (I never noticed that). So when he told me that, I went back in time and remembered that we both went skinny dipping together and all these things you would do in your teenager years. So that was very weird to realize. He saw our friendship as more then a friendship.
 
I hope that answered your questions
 
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Yes those are the briefs I walk around in yes. Were the dorms you wore them in just male or also female?
 
As for the housekeeper. Yesterday morning I put on some proper pants when I came down. It might be to obvious to walk down in my underwear again after she saw me naked.
I did confront her with our latest CFNM experience. As she seemed nervous when I talked to her. So I asked her if it was about yesterday. She again said sorry about not knocking before entering. I ofcourse did not mind and made that clear to her. As I was in a kind of bold mood I asked her what she thinks of what she saw the other day. Laughing she said that she expected it to be bigger. That was a bit of an attack on my pride, but I just laughed as well. Happy that the ice was broken again.
As I was now normally clothed I ate my breakfast in the kitchen while she was around. We now had a deeper conversation then we usually have. And I asked her about her private situation. I knew she was divorced and has a 12 year old daughter. But she said that she has trouble paying the rent for her apartment and became quite emotional. I felt really sorry for her and gave her just a hug. I offered her some of my savings if she really was in trouble. She appreciated the gesture but proudly refused. At that time I really felt stupid, for playing these erotic games with her all this time. While she was really in financial and emotional trouble. So in the future I will just be more respectful to her, and not just come down in my underwear to show off my goods, of which she apparantly was not so impressed.  
 
I graduated at the school of the nude shoot. I am now searching for a place to do my master. For me the modeling is financially not necessary, but I could need the extra money ofcourse. Its more as a challenge and a thrill. The thrill being for the nude art class, and I see it as a challenge to try to really book jobs as a model.  
I think I should have done it then when I was 18. After the gay magazine shoot, I should have pursued a modeling career then. But I was to busy studying and partying at that time. I think it is to late now to really make money as a model.  
 
So far I didn't hear anything from the art school. I am quite disappointed in that. So I applied at an company that organizes bachelor(ette) parties. Including nude art classes. I read that they are looking for models in ages 20-30 with a good physique So I sent them an email with a photo of my face and also the photo of me in the underwear. And they replied they wanted me for an interview. So that is a positive development. I don't know if there are people here with experience of these kind of parties. But I suppose the girls present there are alot more greedy then at normal art schools. Any advice?
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« Reply #38 on: Dec 22nd, 2010, 10:01pm »
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Ralph,
I understand completely about your best friend. I think it speaks volumes, though, that he felt comfortable enough to admit that he had a crush on you. I don't think he necessarily thought of your friendship as more than that - he probably wanted it to be, but I think the fact that you did not reciprocate his feelings must've clicked with him.
 
Sorry to hear about your housekeeper's problems. I know that must've been awkward for you to hear. Despite that, though, I don't think I would change your habits. Continue walking around in your underwear - if she notices a change in your behavior now, she'll probably feel guilty for walking in on you like she did. Just my take, but I think I would continue to walk around in the underwear - just don't make it a sexual thing.  
 
To answer your question, I lived in a dorm with guys and girls. My particular hall was guys only, but there were frequently girls present either visiting boyfriends or doing laundry on our floor. So, yes, there were a number of good revelations, let's say.
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As for the friend who had a crush on me. It was not like we never spoke again after that. At first we avoided each other, but later we talked things over. But we just grew apart, as he is another 'scene' now then I am.
 
Yes it is sad about the housekeeper. But the problem with walking around in my underwear is that it already has been a sexual thing for some time. Like I explained in one of my previous posts, it started as just my habit to come down in my underwear to prepare my breakfast. But it's now obvious a sexual thing for both of us. Especially since she has seen me naked. When we are around each other in the morning it really is like flirting with each other. And especially now that I know of her personal problems, she is quite vulnerable. So if this continues it could lead to me showing her every room in the house. That would be something that we would both really enjoy at that moment, and maybe something that has to happen with all this sexual tension that is between us. But afterwards we would surely regret it. As it will never last, and could compromise her job. So the underwear thing, I am afraid has to stop. Despite the urge I have every morning to walk down naked with my hard cock and put her on the sink.  
 
As for the art class. Today I decided to call the art school myself. They apologized that they didn't call me myself. It seemed to me that they forgot all about me. It was also an other person on the phone, and she, contrary to the other person, did mind I had no experience. They keep me on a reserve list, but for the time I won't be asked to pose nude for one of their classes.  
 
But the good news is, that after christmas I have an job interview for the company that organizes bachelor(ette) parties.
But I wonder, as they want good looking men for their bachelorette parties, do you think that during the interview they will ask me to strip down? Not just to see what they are hiring, but maybe also testing I have the nerve to take it off, and not back off at the last moment.
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« Reply #40 on: Dec 23rd, 2010, 11:36pm »
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Well, Ralph, I can understand your decision not to walk around in your undies anymore. If you're afraid of what it might lead to, then it's best to stop before it's too late.  
 
A pity too about the art class - I can't say I'm surprised, though, since they oftentimes keep inexperienced models on reserve. That's why I was never called when I applied earlier this year - they wait until a model cancels at the last minute and call you then. It happens frequently, though, so I would just make sure you're ready to strip down at the last minute. Maybe you should have your "modeling kit" prepared, so you can accept a job immediately should they call.
 
Make sure you have a robe to wear when walking around during breaks, or if you don't have that, a pair of underwear. You might want to have a timer available too, just in case you need to time your own poses. If you think you'll use props (rope and wooden dowels can do wonders for creative poses) you may consider setting those aside as well.
 
Until you get called, I would just try practicing some poses, to make sure you have the endurance for when you actually model. See what you can hold for a twenty minute pose, a ten minute pose, and a five minute pose. Shorter periods = more dynamic poses. Longer periods = simpler poses. (end modeling rant)
 
Good news about the bachelorette party gig, though. Hopefully the interview goes well. I wouldn't be surprised if they had you strip to your underwear or something, if only so they could properly judge your physique. Personality will probably have a lot to do with it, too, so make sure you go in with some confidence. I wish you the best of luck!
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I donít think I will ever forget this Christmas. Last night after our Christmas dinner I got called by the housekeeper. She sounded very emotional on the line and asked If I could come over. I told her to wait until the last family members had left and would come to her place then. Telling my parents I was meeting some friends.  
 
I didnít expect anything to happen when I got there. The last weeks we have been good talking buddies, and maybe she just wanted to talk. When I arrived at her place she was really an emotional wreck. Her daughter spent this yearís Christmas with her ex-husband. And she explained this was the first Christmas she spent alone. I was sitting next to her to cheer her up and I wrapped my arm around her. So after some talking I was like what the heck and I kissed her. But she withdrew. I thought I blew it at that moment. But she said: I donít want this to happen out of pity with me. She said that a young guy like me would not want to have her, unless it is out of pity. So I was like are you crazy? I told her that I think she is sex on legs. Why you think I would come down there in my underwear every morning. That was just to impress you of course. She was quiet for a moment then, and asked if I wanted to drink something. It looked like she was scared to have sex with me. And wanted to change the subject and pretend like the kiss did not happen. So when she went to the kitchen, I started to undress. And when she came back with the drinks I was standing there completely naked. Not realizing the possible risks for doing this. But as it was at her house, and not mine, I felt kind of safe.  
 
So I walked towards her with my half erect penis flopping around, and we started to make out. It was really very passionate. I was hoping she would get out of her clothes as well, so I could see the things I have been fantasising about for so long. But she didnít at that time. She laid down on the couch and I lifted up her dress and took off her thong. The last time she saw me naked she didnít really seemed impress with the size of my manhood. That could be right as in a soft condition it is just average. But when I am erect it is quite impressive. So I felt I had something to show off to her. When I penetrated her I gave it some really deep thrusts. After we came, I lifted her up and carried her upstairs to her room.  
There she finally did off her dress as well. Surprisingly it was just a dress, and she wore no bra. Which was for me an indication that she might have expected or at least hoped this would happen. And what I saw, did not let me down. Her legs and ass were just astonishing. And her breasts..OMG. She pushed me on the bed and started to ride on top of me. Her breasts just bouncing up and downÖ.was a wonderful sight. Telling by the way she did it, she was just really experienced. After that she bent over on her knees and made clear to me she wanted to be taken from behind. I had never done that before and was quite nervous. But once I was pounding in on her from behind it really felt like kinky sex and was a great experience.
After that she wanted to go for it again. But my penis wouldnít let me to go for it again. It was soft and she was playing with it to make it hard again. After a while it did and we were back in business. Me on top again and she with her thighs wrapped around me and with her fingernails scratching all over my back. It was so very intense, I never experienced sex like this before.
When we were finally done I laid down on my stomach and she laid down with her head on my butt. Using it as a pillow. We were just laying there exhausted and talked for hours. Until I realized it was almost 6 and I had to go back as I needed to be present at the family breakfast that morning. We agreed that we would only have sex at her place when her daughter was not present. I hope I can keep myself to that promise when she is around again tomorrow.  
 
I hope I didnít go in to many details, but it was really one of the greatest nights of my life. It was absolutely great and thought to share it here. This morning at breakfast I felt so excited to tell about it, but I had to keep my mouth shut. But I think they noticed I was in a better mood then I usually am.  
 
Btw, thanks for the tip about having the modeling kit ready.  
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« Reply #42 on: Dec 27th, 2010, 12:18am »
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Well, Merry Christmas indeed.  
 
So does this mean you're going to continue your underwear exhibitions after all? Or are you going to go all the way and just strut around nude? Either way, it certainly sounds like she's been enjoying the view. As I said before, though, just don't do anything you think you'll regret later.
 
Very bold of you to strip naked like that - apparently it paid off for you, though. And here I thought I was brave walking up to the front desk in my undies after I locked myself out of my dorm room. I can't imagine just waiting naked like that, not knowing how the other person would react (knowing my luck, it would've been the opposite reaciton, haha).
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« Reply #43 on: Dec 27th, 2010, 6:20am »
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Sounds like you had a fun night there Ralph.  
 
I agree with Undieguy that it took you some guts to strip naked without knowing her reaction. But judging on the photos you showed here, you must be very sure about the impact your body has when shown to a woman. It looks like she learned you some new tricks for in bed. I think that will only be useful for any future girlfriends. By the way, did she enjoy using your butt as a pillow?
 
You said she was not impressed when your penis was in a flaccid state. Was she impressed when she saw you erect? And since you said that it is impressive. Could you let us in about the size?
 
But I wonder. Myself knowing that when two bodies are longing for each other, it must be difficult to stick to the agreement you made with the housekeeper. You think you can control yourself when she is in your house when cleaning?
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Undieguy,
 
I have been exploiting the boundaries of our agreement this morning. I was quite horny this morning. And like every monday she cleans the bathroom. So I came with the idea to go in the bath with the door open. I stroked my penis so it would be hard when she came in. So when she came in the bathroom I was just smiling with my erect piece of meat floating in the water. She smiled as well. I asked her if she could finish what I had started. She ignored that, and continued working. I was clearly teasing her and asked if she could wash my back. She replied if I forgot the agreement we made saturday night. We had a little discussion then. But we came to the mutual conclusion that it was ok for me to walk around naked when she is at work but no kissing, touching etc. As one of these things might lead to more and we can't compromise her job. I am quite glad with that, as it is quite a rush for me to walk around naked in her presence and she didn't say it, but I am sure she likes it as well.  
Usually on friday and saturday her daughter is with her ex-husband, so those are the days I can come over to exploit her bedroom.
 
Yes it was quite a risk to strip naked. This may sound cocky, but I know when I am stripped naked it takes some discipline to resist that. It has worked in the past with some of the girls I dated of my own age. Sometimes when we had an argument, I would go naked, smile in a naughty way and in a few minutes the argument was over and we were having sex. I am glad it worked with this older woman as well. But I didn't have to wait. I was still taking off my socks when she came back with the drinks.  
 
Angelie,
Yes I think she was impressed. I never really measured my size. I know alot of guys do that, but I never did. I think it's about 7,1/7,2 inches erect.  
 
Btw, I have some good news for you. And maybe for some other people of this board as well. My walk of shame with the pink thong has become quite a household story among my friends. And some girls haven't seen the video before it was deleted the first time. So I agreed with my buddy who filmed it that he was allowed to post it for at the most 2/3 days and then delete it again. So if you still want to see it. Hurry!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzaJk8w8FRI
 
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Sounds like you've been having some fun with this new arrangement. I wouldn't push things too far, of course - like she said, you don't want her to lose her job over this.
 
I like your solution of stripping naked to settle an argument. It's certainly one way to get things done!
 
Now, let's see... I know I mentioned earlier about how I would walk around our dorm in my underwear on a daily basis. I guess I can elaborate now. As I said before, it was a mixed sex dorm, though my particular hallway was guys only. That being said, there were frequently girls present when I'd step out of my room in my tight briefs to go to the bathroom or something. Just about every time I got a good reaction - they'd giggle and begin whispering to each other, and I ate it up.
 
There were a couple of times that this sort of backfired, though, because I locked myself out in just my undies. Our doors locked automatically, so there was no way to get back in if I forgot my key. On those two occasions, I had to walk all the way down to the front desk on the opposite side of the building, all in my tight briefs. One time, it was right at noon, and the front desk was by the dining hall, meaning I had plenty of witnesses. There was also a tour group going through, but I decided to wait in the stair well until they passed - however, that was after I had already stepped out into the lobby and saw the large crowd.
 
Needless to say, this is one of the things about college life that I miss.
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Sorry for my late reply. I have been to French Guiana the last two weeks with my friends.  
 
That sounds like nice experiences undieguy. You ever been locked out naked? or just in your undies?
 
As for my holiday to French Guiana, it has been one of the great experiences of my life this far. Not just the experience of the country, but also the sexual experiences I had there. On the second day we encountered a group of French girls, and we hang around with them for the rest of the vacation. Me and my friends all had a crush on the same girl and we basically did everything to impress her. We went streaking at our resort, went to a nude beach and on one of the final days when I was finally alone with her, we made a hiking trip. As she is very much in to photography, she asked me to undress at a waterfall and took a nude photo of me.
 
So when we returned we just had great memories of the streaking and the nude beach experience. But as I gave the French girl my email, yesterday there was a email from her with some enclosed files. It turned out that this were some of the photos she took of the holiday. And I was astonished of all the crazy stuff we did. So instead of writing my cfnm experiences down, I am lucky that I have some of them on photo. On not all the photos you see girls, but they were taken by a girl and when we were naked, we usually were in front of 6 clothed French girls.
 
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Wow, Ralph! Sounds like you had a blast! Did you get into any trouble for streaking like that? Or were you lucky enough not to get caught? And how about the nude beach? Did everyone strip off for that? Or only a brave few?
 
The pictures are great - they really bring your trip to life. A pity we can't see what these girls were like, but oh well - I'm sure you both enjoyed each other's company just fine.
 
As for locking myself out naked, I'm afraid to say that never happened. I only locked myself in my underwear twice - but both times it was in my skimpy briefs, and I definitely gave some girls a good show, haha.
 
I suppose the closest thing to being locked out naked would be the time one of my hallmates stole my towel by mistake while I was showering. I had to walk back to my room butt naked that day, though only the thief saw me as he came to return my towel.
 
That being said, I was outside in my underwear on a daily basis, and there were almost always girls present to see. My dorm room was right by the stairwell leading to the lobby, so there was a lot of traffic from girls coming and going. Any time I stepped out of my room, I was in clear view for anyone in that area - which, I have to admit, I enjoyed.
 
To give you an idea, here's a picture of me in my briefs. They're pretty typical for what I wore outside my room (though I certainly had more revealing undies from time to time).
 
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We were caught yes, but not any trouble or something. It only lasted for about 5 minutes or so.  
 
As for the nude beach, it was hidden from public. So before you entered, there was a sign with no clothes allowed. So at first we were making jokes about it that nobody would dare to enter it. So me being quite comfortable with being nude, started to take off my clothes. As it was one of the first days of the holiday I hesitated before I took of my underwear. I eventually did and I was hoping my friends would follow the example. So I just ran on the beach, hoping to see some women there, but when I entered it was just all male. So I walked casually to the water, but the about 20 males on the beach were just all staring at me. Fortunately, my friends followed in, they were however smart enough to keep their trunks in front of them. Later the girls joined in just topless, but still a great sight. After we had our swim, we didn't gave the males on the beach to pleasure to watch us dry up and we immediately returned to the parking lot. Where I was happy to find out my clothes were still there, and not stolen by one of my friends. But it definitaly broke the ice for us that day.
 
It was my only nude beach experience this far, and as for me also my last. I don't know how other nude beaches are, but it looks like it is more like a gay meeting place to me.  
 
Yes I have photos with the girls on it, but I don't want to just random post photos of them on the internet.  
 
The time you were locked out naked must have been quite a thrill. Unfortunately you didn't encounter any of the girls that day
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Well, Ralph, at least you didn't get into any trouble. That's a relief - it really would've put a damper on your holiday if you were arrested for indecent exposure or something. A shame on the nude beach, too. From what I understand, there are oftentimes more guys than girls at such locales - sorry that you couldn't have some more ladies to hang out with there. I wouldn't let one so-so experience turn you off nude beaches forever, though.
 
Yeah, I think it would've been fun if I'd been caught naked that day - but, at the same time, at least I didn't get into any trouble. Like I said, I had plenty of experiences where I was nearly naked.
 
For example, one night the guys in the room next door were being particularly loud, talking with their girlfriends and such. Since I was tired, I decided to go over and tell them to knock it off - it was three in the morning, and quiet hours were in effect. I didn't bother to put on any more clothes, and headed over in just my underwear.
 
I knocked on the door, and there was a long pause. I could hear the girls whispering to each other on the other side of the door, saying things like "Is he naked?" "He's not wearing a shirt..." before they finally opened up. There were the two girls, with their boyfriends sitting on their beds. I saw them both glance down at my undies as I asked them to keep it down. When I got back to my room, I could hear the girls giggling through the wall as they went over what had just happened time and time again. That was a lot of fun.
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