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Naked roman slaves
« on: Apr 12th, 2010, 10:13pm »
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I have read before that male slaves were normally naked to keep them from escaping. So instead of the current day striped suit, they were dressed in  their birthday suits. I wonder if roman women enjoyed watching the naked male slaves.
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 13th, 2010, 4:09am »
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Much information about ancient Rome can be found here --> http://www.roman-empire.net/
 
They describe a lot about the slaves and what society was like back then.  
 
While women of Rome may have had access to slaves, they weren't as promiscuous as the women of today. This is primarily because there was no means of birth control at the time. If a woman (non slave) had a baby that didn't belong to her husband, the remainder of her life would be pretty miserable.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 28th, 2010, 6:31pm »
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on Apr 13th, 2010, 4:09am, jclause2 wrote:
Much information about ancient Rome can be found here --> http://www.roman-empire.net/
 
They describe a lot about the slaves and what society was like back then.  
 
While women of Rome may have had access to slaves, they weren't as promiscuous as the women of today. This is primarily because there was no means of birth control at the time. If a woman (non slave) had a baby that didn't belong to her husband, the remainder of her life would be pretty miserable.

 
Thanks for the reference link.  It's excellent!
 
The issue about open nudity in both Roman and Greek times has been one of the most heated debates on this website.
 
For years I've read up on this subject.  I have never seen a reference to anything relating to nudity amongst the slaves, nor to any kind of open nudity outside of athletic games, the gym or baths.
 
We all know that male athletes were required to compete naked at ancient Olympic games.   There is debate as to who was allowed to view the games, but it is generally believed that married women were generally not allowed.  Unmarried women, and, clothed female athletes were allowed to be at these games.   In addition, athletic practice within the gym was also an area where full nudity of men was expected, and, there were often female spectators.   In fact, the word "gymnasium" is form the Greek word "gymnasion" or "gymnazein", which translates literally to "naked exercise".  "Gymnos" is Greek for naked.  
 
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 29th, 2010, 7:47am »
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They were total slaves with the same status as domestic animals. If their owner told them to strip they had to no matter what the situation.
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Re: Naked roman slaves
« Reply #4 on: Apr 29th, 2010, 4:49pm »
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on Apr 13th, 2010, 4:09am, jclause2 wrote:

While women of Rome may have had access to slaves, they weren't as promiscuous as the women of today. This is primarily because there was no means of birth control at the time. If a woman (non slave) had a baby that didn't belong to her husband, the remainder of her life would be pretty miserable.

 
Ironically, with the advent of DNA this is coming full circle.  DNA is so imparative in predicting and diagnosing illness, and in identification, States are passing laws that mandate testing and/or that make it difficult to avoid.
 
Unfortunately, one thing the DNA test inevitably reveals is who the parents are. Shocked Move over roman girls. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 30th, 2010, 2:49pm »
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on Apr 28th, 2010, 6:31pm, Brad wrote:

 
Thanks for the reference link.  It's excellent!
 
The issue about open nudity in both Roman and Greek times has been one of the most heated debates on this website.
 
For years I've read up on this subject.  I have never seen a reference to anything relating to nudity amongst the slaves, nor to any kind of open nudity outside of athletic games, the gym or baths.
 
We all know that male athletes were required to compete naked at ancient Olympic games.   There is debate as to who was allowed to view the games, but it is generally believed that married women were generally not allowed.  Unmarried women, and, clothed female athletes were allowed to be at these games.   In addition, athletic practice within the gym was also an area where full nudity of men was expected, and, there were often female spectators.   In fact, the word "gymnasium" is form the Greek word "gymnasion" or "gymnazein", which translates literally to "naked exercise".  "Gymnos" is Greek for naked.  
 

 
I think this is a correct assessment. I have also read quite a bit about ancient Rome and Greece. Public nudity was not common at all, except in athletic games with spectators of both sexes and all ages, in which of course only males participated in the nude.
 From the accounts I have read it seems that these male athletes were proud of their bodies and showing them off. In fact they usually went around the sports arena showing off their bodies to be admired by the spectators, especially the female admirers who would choose their favorite athlete.
Although there may have been some restrictions at the Greek Olympic games we must remember that these were held every four years and were dedicated to the Gods near a famous temple there so the restrictions for females may have been due to religious requirments. Athletics in ancient Greece were not just the Olympic games however but were very popular in every town and village were regular athletic competitions were held, some of them even in the street where there was no arena, which could be watched by anyone, and of course the boys and men athletes still mostly  competed nude and watched by everyone.
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Re: Naked roman slaves
« Reply #6 on: Aug 23rd, 2011, 2:22pm »
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 I read where the Mayans kept their slaves naked they would just paint them gray or something
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 23rd, 2011, 3:05pm »
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Well being naked wouldn't stop me from running away if this is the reason they keep them naked.
 
I'm glad that we past those era. Being a slave is gay Tongue
 
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 24th, 2011, 6:48pm »
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I don't know about naked Roman slaves but it is certainly true that Romans did not have the same concept of modesty as we do today.  They had public toilets that were not restricted as to gender.  They also had public baths that were not restricted as to gender until about the 4th century AD.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 25th, 2011, 1:37pm »
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on Aug 24th, 2011, 6:48pm, Youngren wrote:
I don't know about naked Roman slaves but it is certainly true that Romans did not have the same concept of modesty as we do today.  They had public toilets that were not restricted as to gender.  They also had public baths that were not restricted as to gender until about the 4th century AD.  

 
I also read that during some periods and certain cities of the Roman empire, there were stone pits along the street and people were expected to urinate in them.  The urine was then used to wash clothes because the ammonia had a bleaching effect.
 
Interesting times.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 25th, 2011, 2:57pm »
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on Apr 12th, 2010, 10:13pm, netuser999 wrote:
I have read before that male slaves were normally naked to keep them from escaping. So instead of the current day striped suit, they were dressed in  their birthday suits. I wonder if roman women enjoyed watching the naked male slaves.

 
I don't know about preventing slaves from running away, but I could see forced nudity as a way to humiliate the slaves and to emphasize their subservient status.  I could also see (if only in fantasy) male slaves being forced to be naked in front of the women/girls of the dominant society to further their humiliation.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 25th, 2011, 4:00pm »
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I wouldn’t mind being a naked Roman slave at all if I had naughty but kind hearted mistresses like Jill and Mariana of Chilled Jill’s classic story ‘Roman Tales 2’Grin
 
In such a scenario, no slave would ever dream of running away!Wink
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on Aug 25th, 2011, 4:00pm, BOLDER wrote:
I wouldn’t mind being a naked Roman slave at all if I had naughty but kind hearted mistresses like Jill and Mariana of Chilled Jill’s classic story ‘Roman Tales 2’Grin
 
In such a scenario, no slave would ever dream of running away!Wink

 
Indeed.  In that case, it'd be more like, "If you force me to put clothes on then I'll run away!"
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 26th, 2011, 3:07pm »
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I didn't read those stories but I think they are fiction. In reality the life of a slave sucks, well the life of a slave in stories sucks too. I'd prefer to be the rich dude who owns the slaves.
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on Aug 26th, 2011, 2:33pm, sprocket1986 wrote:

 
Indeed.  In that case, it'd be more like, "If you force me to put clothes on then I'll run away!"

 
Absolutely right, Sprocket. What is the fun of being a slave if you can’t be naked. In fact, the mistresses could threaten their wayward slaves by saying, “If you don’t behave yourself, I will make you put your clothes on”. That should get the desired result!Wink
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 26th, 2011, 3:53pm »
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on Apr 28th, 2010, 6:31pm, Brad wrote:

 
Thanks for the reference link.  It's excellent!
 
The issue about open nudity in both Roman and Greek times has been one of the most heated debates on this website.
 
For years I've read up on this subject.  I have never seen a reference to anything relating to nudity amongst the slaves, nor to any kind of open nudity outside of athletic games, the gym or baths.
 
We all know that male athletes were required to compete naked at ancient Olympic games.   There is debate as to who was allowed to view the games, but it is generally believed that married women were generally not allowed.  Unmarried women, and, clothed female athletes were allowed to be at these games.   In addition, athletic practice within the gym was also an area where full nudity of men was expected, and, there were often female spectators.   In fact, the word "gymnasium" is form the Greek word "gymnasion" or "gymnazein", which translates literally to "naked exercise".  "Gymnos" is Greek for naked.  

 
 
You're going to have to provide some sources for claims that women were in the gyms as men exercised.The gymnasiums,as far as I've heard, were all male areas where women (who had little to know rights) wouldn't have been allowed.Same with women competing in any athletic events,since athletics were a man thing.Except maybe for the Spartans whose women were reportedly as fit as men and took part in athletics just as the men.The Spartans were a rare case though.(in comparison to the other Greeks)
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on Aug 26th, 2011, 3:07pm, getdare wrote:
I didn't read those stories but I think they are fiction. In reality the life of a slave sucks, well the life of a slave in stories sucks too. I'd prefer to be the rich dude who owns the slaves.

 
 
I can't imagine anyone not wanting to be the rich one with the slaves.There are some who may want to fantasize about being a naked slave,but actually being in the situation would be horrible.Freedom is one of the most fundamental desires of all human beings.People have fought for it,killed for it, and have died for it.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 26th, 2011, 9:55pm »
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One can't generalize about slaves in Roman times.
One could be a slave doing the most lowly menial and  forced labour, and probably naked all the time.  
And one could be a slave in a very high position of responsability with a rich family or business, and be very well treated, and often times living in comfort and luxury, far better than the average "free" citizen, whose life was harsh and in lowly conditions.
 
However it seems that slaves were in plentiful supply and probably pretty cheap to buy.
Sometimes the Romans enslaved whole nations and tribes who they were at war with and carried the entire, or a large part, of the population to Rome to be sold as slaves.
 
There is the famous historical example of the Jews when the Romans carried the entire population of Judea and sold them as slaves throughout the Roman Empire in about 70 AD, after a revolt by the Jews against Roman occupation.  
This was called the dispersion, or diaspora of the Jews. In fact the Jews never went back there until the establishment of modern Israel in 1947.
 
So yes, slaves were in plentiful supply in Rome, and I once read that in fact there were more slaves in Rome than there were citizens.
So it is probable that a very big part of the Roman population actually owned slaves.
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No one denies that the life of a slave, in Rome or elsewhere, must have largely been really tough and miserable.Huh
 
But what I was talking about is slavery within the domain of ‘femdom’ which is something else. Even though it would mainly be in the realm of fantasy, I get really turned on by the mistress / slave equation where the ladies have a free hand to discipline and exercise their authority over me.
 
If I had a lovely Roman Mistress, I would be most willing to surrender my freedom and my clothes to her!Roll Eyes
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