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CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection?
« on: Jul 8th, 2009, 12:33pm »
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Going back and reading through my old story ("Get Yer Kit Off", which I just posted, I noticed that a fairly common element of CFNM stories is emphasizing the vulnerability of a naked man's testicles.
 
CFNM is, of course, pretty different from "ballbusting", in which masochistic men enjoy getting hit in the balls. But for a lot of guys who are into CFNM, part of the fun of being naked in front of girls might be the fact that the testicles - a male's most vulnerable part - are exposed, which gives girls added power over men.
 
Is this an important part of CFNM for any guys here? How about for girls?
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Re: CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection
« Reply #1 on: Jul 8th, 2009, 2:13pm »
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I think that vulnerability is definitely a HUGE part of CFNM to me. I think its more the vulnerability of being naked in a room of clothed women rather then how delicate testicles are.
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Re: CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection
« Reply #2 on: Jul 8th, 2009, 2:24pm »
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I prefer to think of the total surrender. Itís a psychological vulnerability when one person in a group is naked, and more so when itís a person of one sex in a group of people of the opposite sex.
 
Thatís why I donít like strippers. Theyíre professionals and theyíre in charge. Sure, theyíre fun to look at, but theyíre not as fun to play with. If my husband is naked for me and my friends, heís giving us a nice visual treat, but heís also changing the dynamic of our relationships.  
 
If, on a random Saturday night heís cooking at the grill and making chicken breasts and mushrooms and asparagus for me and some of my girlfriends, heís very much in control, and heís taking a dominant role in the activities. Heís preparing the meal, deciding when weíll eat, and being ďin chargeĒ. Heís a provider. His personality is such that all evening long he will direct the flow of conversation, activities and even location. Are we going to sit out back and have a fire, or go inside to the bar and play games? He has a lot of control over that.  
 
If, later that evening, I tell him that he has to pay up on a lost bet and I make him strip for that same group of women, the entire dynamic has suddenly changed. We are now 100% in charge. We select the music, we decide the lighting, we seat ourselves comfortably and make him get us fresh drinks. We decide when heíll start. We decide how long heíll stay naked. We decide when he can cover up and when he has to show us everything. We decide when he can finally dress.
 
Later that evening, we will all have seen him naked and vulnerable. We all know that we can see him that way again, and we know that he knows it. And everyone knows that he will never see any of us (except me, of course) that way. He is our toy, but we are not his. He can be strong, commanding, charming and in charge most of his life, but we all know that he is ours to play with, to take out and look at from time to time, and that itís OUR decision when and where.
 
I like balls, but not by themselves. If you cover a manís penis and just leave his balls hanging out it is VERY not attractive. His penis sticking out of his pants or his boxers is sexier, but we all know heís hiding something. I want to see it all together. The complete package, as they say. I guess itís like the difference between seeing just a nipple, most of a breast, or a topless woman. I would guess that almost all men would rather see the woman topless. The nipple alone, the rest of the breast covered, is just kind of weird.  
 
I never think about the vulnerability of his balls because I would never hurt him. He isnít into pain and Iím not into inflicting it. If he was into pain I still think Iíd have a problem doing it.
 
Hope this gives you some insight into one womanís mind!
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Re: CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection
« Reply #3 on: Jul 8th, 2009, 10:56pm »
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watchesam,
 
Thanks for the input!  
I agree that the vulnerability we feel at being fully revealed to a girl has nothing to do with testicular vulnerability. I am certainly not into SM, with the exception of being slapped by a pretty girl! It would be a sexual assault for a woman to injure a man in the testicle area. Since all women, at some level, worry about sexual assaults, it makes no sense for any to initiate a sexual assault on a man!
I also agree that I prefer to see the "whole package", on a woman. I HATE tease photos, where the girl has her hand, or some other object concealing her best part! I don't agree that "it is better to leave something to the immagination"! I prefer to see her whole vagina (vulva) and be pleased that I have learned what she looks like! This applies, to a lesser extent, to her breasts, as you say.
So, I see your point, regarding your desire to see the whole "male package"!
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Re: CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection
« Reply #4 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 12:55am »
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watchesem,
 
I found your comments reminded me very much of a woman I used to get massages from. She was local, in the northeast US that is, and quite experienced as a masseuse, but completely legit. That is, she did not offer happy endings or sexual services as such (although she did say that she had in some cases used tantric massage techniques on male and female clients). She and I discovered early on that we were on the same general wave length on many things and communicated beautifully. Consequently we talked a blue streak while she massaged me and we got to know and like each other very well. She was a superb masseuse, completely committed to massage as a profession, and highly intuitive -- she also did some talk therapy (on the phone with far flung clients) as well -- and I got to understand how and why she operated as she did.  
 
Because here is the thing -- she always required me to be completely nude when she massaged me. No towel, no blanket or sheet and no modesty. The reason was so that I would be vulnerable to her control. She was a very accomplished and versatile masseuse and subscribed to no particular "school" of massage -- she employed specific techniques as she thought them applicable including doing deep tissue, especially Rolfing, among other techniques. Rolfing you may know can be quite painful, and it can be done on any part of the body, or most any that have muscles and the fascia that control them. (Rolfing is the deep massage of the fascia, in order to erase the physical residue, or "memories", of past injuries and physical hurts.) Sometimes she would use these techniques on my butt, around my rectum, high on my thighs or right on my pubic area muscles. Sometimes I would get an erection -- that was ok...no happy ending but it caused her no problem at all.  
 
Now, most legitimate massage therapists in the US are just the opposite of this woman -- they want your genitals to remain covered. The reasons I guess can vary with the woman, but the result is the same -- stay covered. On the other hand, as I have written elsewhere on this board, I got literally hundreds of massages when I lived in Asia, and in 98% of them I was fully nude. The masseuses there expected and wanted me that way for ease of massage if for no other reason, plus they did offer sexual "relief" (and were tipped for it) and doing so obviously required genital access. So why ask the client to cover up? (And in defense of these Asian masseuses, I should mention that they were also "legitimate masseuses", offering therapeutic and skillful massage not just a handjob, but they considered sexual relief a natural part of their work, unlike their American counterparts.) But in the US, the puritanical US, it is usually just the opposite. But not with this woman. And her reasoning was a lot like yours. When I was nude, I was vulnerable. When she massaged near my testicles that vulnerability was underlined, because she was a vigorous massager (for the part of the massage in which she used Rolfing techniques I would sometimes cry out in pain, and she would have to ease up a bit -- she said she was often asked to ease up and it all depended on how much I "could take"). And since I was vulnerable I was a more compliant client. I did not give her trouble asking for sexual services and the like.
 
I got massages from this woman off and on for several years, sometimes as frequently as every week, sometimes every other or third week, until she moved away.  During that period she massaged just about every inch of my body except my eyeballs, the end of my penis and my testes (she did massage my scrotum a couple of times, being careful to not hurt the testes within). And as I said, her view was, and it was true, that my complete nudity gave her a type of control and reinforced in me a type of vulnerability. Those experiences with this woman were a real eye-opener for me. She was a youngish woman in her late 30s and attractive and had been married, was attracted to men, etc. But she had decided on a technique -- keeping the male client fully nude -- that was just the opposite of her sister masseuses -- and it worked! And I bet it met some of her own personal needs as well.
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Re: CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection
« Reply #5 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 5:10am »
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Allan_C: thanks for that contribution.
 
It is not only the US that is puritanical regarding coverage for "legit" massage - most UK female massage therapists also want you either to keep your shorts on or keep the genital area covered. Male MTs are usually OK with nakedness.
 
The result is that female MT's spend an inordinate amount of time rearranging towels instead of massaging - cover you up, uncover a leg, massage, cover up the leg, uncover the other leg etc etc. If you question it, they always justify it by saying the body should be kept warm after being massaged. I say they should turn up the heat a bit if that's a problem.
 
 I hadn't heard the vulnerability argument before, but it makes particular sense in the context of rolfing.
 
What the towel ritual does is not only waste time but also prevent the MT from viewing and treating the body as a whole. It's the fashion (with some justification) of taking a "holistic" approach to treatment of all sorts, but the towel ritual works completely against the concept. It's a right old nonsense, and your MT (and also the Asian ones it seems) are right not to follow it.
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Re: CFNM and testicle vulnerability - a connection
« Reply #6 on: Jul 9th, 2009, 4:57pm »
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I think Joey's onto something with the vulnerability thing, but it's the complete package - during the cfnm experiences I've had, both my penis and my testicles have felt very vulnerable (which is nice!) But I think the most vulnerable I've ever felt during a cfnm experience was when my older sister walked in on me naked in the bathroom, and I had a full erection - thats as vulnerable as I've ever felt, and it definitely wasn't my testicles that her eyes were locked on Smiley
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