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Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
« on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 11:57am »
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How far do you think fraternity initiations can go?  
How does male pledges having to jerk off in front of some sorority chick’s sound?  
Seem to extreme?
Do you say no-way?
I don’t think it’s that crazy and I won’t be surprised when it happens.
 
For those that do not know: Many frats across the US, use an embarrassing form of initiation for its pledges.
 
 
Stuff I have seen on my campus:
 
1. Making pledges streak across campus.
2. Making pledges get girls signatures with markers on their bodies. Girls could choose where they wanted to sign. Ass and Chest were the top 2!
3. I have seen pledges have to tell girls how often they jerked off.
4. I have seen pledges have to give lap dances to girls while wearing their boxers or briefs.
5. Walking around in maid or outfits that embarrassed and exposed them in some way..
 
Some stuff I have heard of but never seen on my campus:
1.Pledges made to swim nude in ice cold water then get out in front of girls.
2.Pledges having to show their dicks to a group of girls for inspection.
I cant back these two up, I just heard about them.
 
 
Also some embarrassing pledge stuff does not fall in the realm of CFNM.  
 
I had to rent porno for my whole frat every week. The lady working at the video store thought I was the biggest pervert.
I had to steal some chick’s panties for an older brother.  
I had to clean up after parties and set them up.
I was an errand boy and had to make run to the stores when ever they wanted. That sucks when you are trying to talk to a girl and they make you run out for more beer and Taco Bell.
 
So back to the original question. While it is extreme it’s not to far off from some things that already go on. Pledges are often made to do thing that embarrass them. With CFNM becoming more popular is it not possible that some frat might make their pledges jerk off in front of a few sorority girls?
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Re: Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 1:37pm »
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I think when you have guys developing sexually but not necessarily 'maturing', and with access to beer, and with a sense of freedom from the rules that apply at home, it's inevitable they will push boundaries.
 
Sometimes this will be ok, nothing more than 'high jinx', but sometimes it will go too far.
 
So I suppose the question is, what is 'too far' ?
 
That's a very tricky one to reply to without sounding either too stern or too naughty.  
 
Now of course it's wrong to cause injury or humiliation to unwilling subjects (male or female). I love and respect guys so I wouldn't want them harmed in any way and who can tell what the long term effect of some 'rituals' could be  Kiss  
 
But as I've mentioned before, male initiation ceremonies / rituals are a huge source of fascination and fantasy for me.  
 
So maybe I'll approach this from the view of being in the audience - and I think there should be some kind of promise or pledge before you're allowed to be part of the audience.
 
I'd have no problem with signing guys chests (or bums!) if it was all done with a sense of fun and the guys were willingly taking part.
 
The same applies to lap dances, streaking, wearing revealing costumes etc. If the guys were willing (even if only doing it to get into the 'club') then I'd happily take part.  
 
I'd draw the line at things where the guys were forced into humiliating situations with no choice. I don't include things like having to buy condoms, or rent naughty movies. That's a fairly typical thing guys dare each other to do anyway, and is part of proving your manhood in a way I suppose.
 
But a guy's orgasm is something else. There's such a potential here to destroy trust and friendship, that any short term 'thrill' of seeing it wouldn't be any kind of justification.  
 
And it's a safe bet that although some of us in the audience would take everything (including any male nudity) at face value (have a laugh, maybe gently tease the guy afterwards) there would be girls who deliberately used it against the guy(s).
 
If you've had a bit of fun and the guys have too, including perhaps streaking, doing "the full monty" or various "willies out" games then really that should be kept as part of the 'event' and left there.
 
It certainly shouldn't be used for hurting guys later, or as a way to demean them, or some kind of anti-male thing. After all, how would a guy feel if he'd played along and done a full frontal streak for his female classmates, only to find pictures all over the internet, or to get comments afterwards about being "small" etc.  
 
Goodness, I am in waffle mood today! Anyway, for better or worse that's my view.  By all means have fun, but with trust and responsibility on both sides.
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Re: Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 3:03pm »
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I don't have a clue what I would have done in those situations at that age.  I do wish they could happen now.
 
(The following story is NOT CFNM)
I do remember, one year, an 18 year old me trying to play a video game in an all-but deserted student union, when a HOT co-ed came in with 2 guys.  The guys went over to play pinball, but the girl came up behind me to watch.  This was a game where the player stood to play, and I was farther into the game that day than I'd ever been before, and had yet to lose even one "life".  The girl came up behind me, until her breasts were pressed against my back, and said "Ooohh!  you're GOOD!", at which point I died.  The rest of the game was a total lost cause, as all I could think about was how her breasts had felt on my back.
 
I'm guessing I'd have been one of the quickest to go off, if I'd been asked to jack in front of women who wanted to see.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 4:24pm »
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Most frats are close to a girl’s sorority. They usually work together on community events and parties. I could easily see the Frat calling a few of the members of the sorority to help with the pledges.  My frat teamed up with a local sorority and they helped us with some of our pledge events. The girls were also really tight with our Frat, some dating and fucking us.  I could see a Frat inviting over a couple of the girls to watch a couple of pledges jerk off.
 
Pledgeing is about brotherhood and how far you will go for the frat. Pledges are not forced to do anything really bad. Sometimes they are given choices. It really depends on the older brothers and how mean they are. I had older brothers that were real chill and did not have many task for us to do, but I had brothers that were pretty extreme and liked making pledges do things.
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Re: Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 7:57pm »
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on Nov 23rd, 2008, 4:24pm, Snake wrote:
 I could see a Frat inviting over a couple of the girls to watch a couple of pledges jerk off.
 
Pledgeing is about brotherhood and how far you will go for the frat.

Again, I think it's fine when the 'pledge' is willing. For example, if the guy is told "you have to masturbate in front of two girls" and the pledge accepts that then provided everyone is honest and upfront it could be fun, even though incredibly embarrassing for him.
 
That to me is very different to a guy being forced to masturbate and then finding out girls have been watching (especially if the are the 'wrong type' of girls - in other words those who could make life unpleasant for him afterwards)
 
I've been wondering whether I would have gone to watch, if I'd been invited.  I suppose if I liked the guys and trusted them, I may well have done. There's always a danger this sort of thing can get out of hand so I don't really know.
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Re: Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 23rd, 2008, 9:31pm »
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In the beginning of this forum, this was one topic I spent many, many, many hours researching.  I read actual police and other disciplinary reports on hazing incidences as well as testimonies.  I read websites telling stories of abuse as well as reading official statements from the Greek orders repudiating accusations.
 
I came to these conclusions:
 
1.  Every fraternity is different - not only between the respective Greek orders on campus, but even within the Greek orders themself depending upon the campus and personalities.
 
2.  All fraternities and sororities have some form of initiation rites that serve as a bonding ritual and rite of passage.
 
3.  *Most* of the time they are not too traumatic.  For instance, one fraternity I personally know of had the pledges line up and tie their shoe laces together and had to function that way the rest of the evening.  Doing things that embarrass and making the pledges the brunt of jokes is common.
 
4.   There have been incidences of extreme hazing that make forced nudity in front of a sorority seem like a boy scout initiation.  One sorority dropped their female pledges out in the country without shoes when it was in the 20s and snowing.  It resulted in the girl getting frostbitten and having her feet amputated.   Another involved cigarette burns.   There has been a number of deaths during such initiations caused by alcohol poisoning, asphyxiation, hypothermia and trauma from being beat up.
 
5.  Given #4, one can see how forced nudity and even possible forced masturbation in front of the opposite sex is something that happens, although maybe not a common thing.
 
With that said, I posted a long story about this given me by a sorority girl that went to the University of Montana wherein she told me about how the pledges were forced to stand naked in front of their sorority without their knowing the sorority was watching the initiation.  Let me know, and I'll repost it.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 24th, 2008, 4:06pm »
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Thanks for the research and its spot on Brad.
 
Many frats are diffrent and they have their own hazzing that goes on. Some is extreme and some is  not.  
 
I remember your story and it sounds like it could happen.  
 
Some frats even have point systems. You have to score an amount of points to become a brother. There is a list of things and the more extreme the more points. Some may seem cruel but thats the way it is.
 
Im thinking it would go something like brining in a couple of girls close to the frat and have a couple of pledges or more jerk off in front of them one by one. It depends on the frat but I think thats what would happen on my campus.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 24th, 2008, 5:20pm »
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on Nov 24th, 2008, 4:06pm, Snake wrote:
Thanks for the research and its spot on Brad.
 
Many frats are diffrent and they have their own hazzing that goes on. Some is extreme and some is  not.  
 
I remember your story and it sounds like it could happen.  
 
Some frats even have point systems. You have to score an amount of points to become a brother. There is a list of things and the more extreme the more points. Some may seem cruel but thats the way it is.
 
Im thinking it would go something like brining in a couple of girls close to the frat and have a couple of pledges or more jerk off in front of them one by one. It depends on the frat but I think thats what would happen on my campus.

 
Some of my own personal frat experiences had to do with growing up in the south.   I had bad experiences with frats when they were attempting to get me to join.  
 
DISCLAIMER:  I am an adamant believer that some fraternities do incredible things.  They focus on charities and benevolence while assisting their fellow brothers in their education endeavors.  Despite the wild parties, these fraternal orders are headed by decent (if not religious) leaders.
 
NOW, with that said, other fraternities represent something I abhor - privileged white spoiled brats that are often mean spirited yet mommy has told them so many times how much better they are than others their arrogant elitism keeps them ignorant as to how much their antics anger the non-Greeks (assuming they even care).  Examples - talking very loud at a restaurant using vulgar language how they "fucked that Tri-Delt bitch cunt" so that others hear them.  Of course, they follow it with a loud belch.
 
While I was at the Univ. of Texas, two young men walking in front of the Alpha Tau Omega house and were attacked by its members.  One fled.  The other was dragged into the house, beaten up, stripped naked, urinated upon, then dragged to a garage and robbed of his possessions and sodomized him with a broom.  They put a garbage can over his head and beat on him.  When he went to the police station, he was told to fill out a form and where further ridiculed by the police.  It was only after attorneys were hired by his family and the scandal hit the newspapers that the good ole boys at the police station decided to do the  
right thing and investigate.  The fraternity was ultimately suspended for a year and the boys were tried for assault.    You can Google these facts and get the full story.
 
Previously calling themselves "A-T-O" on campus, those of us that were pissed began calling them "Gay-T-O", something we knew would rile them.
 
The university fraternities I knew of were very racist.  No blacks, latinos or jews were allowed in, and homophobic.  Most of the forced nudity, masturbation, etc., I've read about did not involve sororities; rather, they were all male encounters and I believe were tied to repressed homoerotic tendencies these abnoxiously spoiled brats concealed with their violent homophobic acts.
 
With that said, there are some stories about forced masturbation, but often it is done in public.   It is my understanding that initiations in Asia sometimes include forced masturbation in public.
 
 
Wikipedia discussing the actual hazing games that involve nudity:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazing
 
 
Forced masturbation as part of initiations (the first article cites an author that discusses further the repressed homosexual urges of fraternity members that spark such rituals):
 
http://espn.go.com/otl/hazing/thursday.html
 
http://books.google.com/books?id=LGZRuseil-gC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&a mp;dq=hazing+%2Bmasturbation&source=web&ots=Tdj6zc20q8&sig=zwWMh1DY-fNCsXyLnZeiohhIfdg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result
 
 
 
 
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Re: Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 10:37am »
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Geez Brad, that is a horrible experience.  Sorry to hear about it.  
 
I was in a fraternity in the 80's at a university in the South and there was nothing like that going on.  We had a very strong greek system, and there were some jerks in the mix, but nothing close to criminal activity or abuse.  The only extreme hazing that occurred was in the two black fraternities that were not on campus, and not officially chartered.  They made their pledges carry stacks of bricks around campus during initiation week, and one of them actually crudely branded their pledges with hot irons (they were obsessed with the slave mentality).  They were both overtly racist against whites.  
 
One large fraternity did have a tradition during exam week in the fall semester, in which all of their pledges would run nude through a library at midnight.   It was always the same library, and although they kept the exact night of the run secret, you would see throngs of girls in that library every night around midnight, most with cameras.  
 
I was there twice when they ran, and the girls went crazy, with hooping, blocking exits and a fair amount of ass and ball grabbing.  It was a riot, and everyone had fun.  I don't know if the run was manadatory for the pledges ( most of whom wore masks to hid their faces), but they never were short of participants.  
 
I had my own experience which I will post next.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 11:19am »
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Here is a bit of a reverse scenario the thread theme:
 
When I was a sophmore my roomate had a female friend from his HS who was a freshman.  She was pledging a sorority and in her initiation week.   She was a joining a predominatly Jewish sorority that had a repuation for being a bit wild.  
 
So she is in our room visiting and she is telling us about how the girls get points during pledge week that help determine their "rank" in the pledge class.  They get the points by collecting things like in a scavenger hunt, or doing certain things.  Most of it sounded pretty tame, just stupid things you would expect for freshman girls.  Then she drops the zinger about how they can get huge points for outrageous things like streaking, trespassing, and getting pictures of them holding a guy's erect dick!  
 
Holy shit, I got excited just hearing it.  My roommate was unusually silent, then his friend reveals that he had already "contributed" to her points.  My roomate was blushing, and said that they were good friends and it was no big deal.  He then suggested that I should "contribute" as well, especially since I "had a bigger dick".  Now I am embarrassed, but his friend is now all but begging and she said it would really help her out.  I reluctantly agreed then she upped the ante and asked if her friend/pledge sister could also do it with us.  My roomate revealed that he had agreed to this as well, so I said what the hell, why not.  They were both very cute girls and I did not want to pass this up.  
 
So the next night the two girls come over, Polaroid camera in hand.  My roomate graciously agreed to not be there!  So we get down to business, and I drop my pants and underwear and stood in front of the girls totally nude.  I was fully erect in about 10 seconds, and each girl held my dick in front of their face as the other snapped a picture.   No stroking or anything, just very clinical.  Then my roomate's friend whips a out a ruler and explains that they get double the total "dick points" if they land the biggest one, and they thought I was a good candidate.  So she holds the ruler up to my dick and her friend snaps another picture.  
 
I was ready to burst, literally, and looking forward to ending this so I could get some relief.   Then she looks at her friend, they did the head shake, giggle thing and non-verbally agree to something.  She asks if I would be willing to REALLY help them.  She explains that they get huge points if they can get a picture of a guy jerking off, not just stroking, but with cum visible.  I was so shocked I think I froze for about 15 seconds, and they were clearly embarrassed to even ask.  When I regained my composure I told them that I just could not do that.  They were almost apologetic and said they understood but just had to ask.  My roomate had declined as well.  In retrospect I wish had done it for them, but I was very young and somewhat inexperienced at that point of my life.  
 
A few weeks after all of this, the friend was back visiting with us and told us the results.  She and her friend managed to get more than a dozen guys to participate in the pictures, but they did not ask any others to jack off.  The top producers in their pledge class was another two girl team who had something like 25 dick pictures, including four guys who jacked off for them!  Apparently the wininng team had a reputation as sluts and they had lots of candidates to work with!
 
To my chagrin, I did not win their biggest dick contest.  She said I ranked well but the winner was a solid 9 incher, which drove the girls wild when they passed the picture around.  
 
As a sideline, this experience paid off for me.  The next year, we had a typical wild open party at the house, and the other girl (friend of my roomate's friend) was there getting pretty loaded.  We hung out and danced and she started flirting and asking things like how my "big dick" was doing.  That night, she gave me one of the best blowjobs I think I have ever had.  She was very cute, but was not interested in me beyond that night, much to my disappointment.  
 
Over the years at my college there were many CFNM situations in large groups, and male nudity seemed to be accepted and enjoyed by girls.  I never saw any girls nude except for my dates/girlfriends.  In our fraternity house, girlfriends of guys who lived in the house had pretty much free reign and would use the bathroom while guys were in the open showers or standing at the urinals.  It was pretty much a given that any girlfriend had seen many of the guys dicks at  some point if they were dating someone for several months.   I went from being shy to being an exhibitionist in just four years.  What a great time in life!
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 3:15pm »
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Great story strapman.   Oh to be young again.  Anything dealing with sex and nudity seems so new and fresh.  The anticipation is often better than the experience too.
 
The issue you brought up about branding amongst African American fraternities is common.   I saw a number of them with a three inch wide omega branded on their arms.  However, from what they told me it wasn't a forced hazing thing but rather an elite "honor" they had to earn.  Personally, the scar tissue made it look a bit grotesque, but I'm on the outside looking in.
 
 I'm glad you had a decent fraternity.  I believe that most fraternities are decent and serve a good purpose.  Leadership always sets the course for anything in life...a fraternity, a company or a country.
 
So - if corporate CEOs can be convicted and imprisoned (Enron) or if leaders of countries can commit crimes against humanity, it is not a stretch to envision how leaders of a fraternity could easily commit some pretty devious acts.
 
A classic story I've read on blogs is where the pledges are forced to strip naked, blindfolded and marched into a large room.  They are told to stand at a table and masturbate on some food item, and the one to do it last must eat that food item thus incentivising them to do the deed.  They are then told to take the blindfolds off to see to their horror to see a sorority there in front of them watching the whole thing as the girls break out into laughter and applause.
 
I've read those accounts a number of times, but have never been able to verify it outside of stories told on forums, blogs, bbs, etc.
 
However, nudity in front of the opposite gender is common with a lot of verified stories and evidence, as we've seen Nollningen as well as other initiation ceremonies.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 8:38pm »
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Incidentally... I was looking back thru earlier stories and found a tale of some Pledges jerking off in the dark and then as they came the lights were switched on to find they were surrounded by females... does this count as jerking off in front of the girls as they were tricked into it?
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 27th, 2008, 2:48pm »
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Here is my frats mandatory streaking for pledges.  
On my campus pledges streaked at two different spots.  
 
1. Across the campus park that connected two different buildings.  There were usually lots of students in the field. This had to be done fast since we could be chased by campus security. Girls would help us out with this streak, collecting our clothes and meeting up with us later.  
2. A dorm hall on the east side of campus. The dorm had really long halls with a huge lounge in the middle. Lots of freshman girls lived in this dorm. The girls use to have fun with it also; putting chairs and things in our way so we had to jump over them. Ran by two girls who whistled at me as I ran up and past them.
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From a golf buddy
 
This reminds me of something my fraternity used to do back in college days. Pledges were paraded, fully clothed, and introduced to the frat members and our sorority sisters. Then taken to a room down the hall and a large refrigerator box placed in the hall, with only two holes: one for most guys and one for the taller ones. The sorority girls were given ballots with each pledges name on it. The new guys were then taken one by one into the box where they displayed their cocks and balls through the holes for all to view. The girls then voted for whose dick they thought it was. When all the pledges were done, they also voted for the smallest dick, the largest, the ugliest and the hairiest.
Ballots were gathered and tallied. The the guys were brought out and the real face and dicks were disclosed. The winning girl got a trophy for Best Pecker Checker. The guy with the shortest dick got the James Dean award. The biggest dick got the John Holmes award. The ugliest and hairiest just got certificates.
In five years of witnessing this, one as a pledge, four as a frat member, I can remember only one guy showing wood, and it wasn't that impressive. The ugliest almost always went to an uncut guy. Some girls were remarkably good at this.
Was this humiliating? Yes, but fun. I guess today you'd get prosecuted for hazing or something. Ah, the good old days of college.
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on Nov 29th, 2008, 10:43am, oogerish wrote:

Was this humiliating? Yes, but fun. I guess today you'd get prosecuted for hazing or something. Ah, the good old days of college.

 
 
Hazing runs the gamut.  Making jokes out of one's nudity is far better than the other more severe types I've read about that can be brutally painful or are life threatening.
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Hi strapman:  That was interesting.  I'm afraid I wouldn't have the self discipline not to jerk off for the girls if they were asking nicely and I was about to bust with excitement anyway.  You showed the class of a gentleman!
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Hi oogerish:  That was an amazing story.  I wish I could have been a dick on the wall.
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on Nov 29th, 2008, 10:43am, oogerish wrote:

Ballots were gathered and tallied. The the guys were brought out and the real face and dicks were disclosed.

 
When the guys came back out, did they stay dressed, or did they show their cocks and their faces at the same time?   Let's hope that they were able to retain some dignity.
 
These are some of the hottest CFNM story lines for me.  But I'm in the role of observer.  I wouldn't want to be one of the guys putting on the show.
 
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Pledges jerking off in front of girls far off?
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[quote author=Brad link=board=stories;num=1227459473;start=0#14 date=11/29/08 at 21:42:32]
 
 
Hazing runs the gamut. quote]
 
 
 
Your right Brad. Hazing comes in many diffrent forms, from black frats branding their pledges; they did that at my school, so I can back that up. Some pretty mild, like me being an errand boy and having to streak. Heard of some horror stories also, but I cant say there true because I never saw them with my own eye.
 
I just suspet the jerking off in front of a girl or two is not far off. I think we will start to hear cases of it soon.
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