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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #50 on: Feb 12th, 2011, 2:05pm »
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Here is a zip file of various pl@ygirl cfnm pics I've collected over the years.  A few repeats of what's been posted, but some new ones too.
 
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« Reply #51 on: Feb 13th, 2011, 1:38am »
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awesome richardguy thanks!
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #52 on: Feb 13th, 2011, 1:59am »
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Yes I second That Richard your my hero. I love the early ones from the 70's and 80's. The women are more believable way back when...Now adays there paid to pretend they like Men when it's most likely their into other women...(No Thanks!)..
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« Reply #53 on: Feb 13th, 2011, 2:21am »
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Actually, Erik, these days it's more likely the other way around. A lot of the models in Playgirl are actually gay guys pretending to be straight...or they're at least bi. A man working in the porn world is often "heteroflexible" when he needs to be.
 
And I'm happy you all liked the pix.
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #54 on: Feb 26th, 2011, 11:44am »
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on Jan 8th, 2011, 1:54pm, Chilled_Jill wrote:
The thing I love most about Playgirl is they show erections, it's so wonderfully natural - especially in female company.

 
And I like that the men in there have normal looking penises, not the huge monstercocks you see in a lot of porn.
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #55 on: Mar 30th, 2011, 6:23pm »
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There are TONS of CFNM sets from older Playgirls, does anybody have anymoreHuh?
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« Reply #56 on: Mar 30th, 2011, 11:49pm »
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I second that. Please more even possible some older ones..
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #57 on: Mar 31st, 2011, 7:52am »
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These are from 1977. I find those years better for pure CFNM. I wish it could be more classic nowadays.
 
 
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« Reply #58 on: Mar 31st, 2011, 4:10pm »
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Yeah ... nothing like the 70s.  After that, taste and subtlety was thrown out the window.  It's too bad that Playgirl and Viva didnt have a film division back then.   As good as Hunks in Hedonism and Love Scenes are, think of how much better they would have been made with 70s production values.
 
on Mar 31st, 2011, 7:52am, caio wrote:
These are from 1977. I find those years better for pure CFNM. I wish it could be more classic nowadays.
 
 
 [IMG]http://img166.imagevenue.com/loc146/th_718261000_takeme_123_146lo.jpg[/I MG] [IMG]http://img272.imagevenue.com/loc191/th_571827310_qerh_123_191lo.jpg[/IMG ]  
 

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« Reply #59 on: Apr 1st, 2011, 8:33pm »
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Yeah, I miss the sixties and seventies.  Really miss them.  Nothing like those daysSmiley
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« Reply #60 on: Apr 2nd, 2011, 6:18am »
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on Jan 9th, 2011, 4:30pm, goldeu wrote:
The following 2 are from the March 2008 issue:


 

 

 

 
I think the shoot is definitely one of the best by Playgirl.
Does anyone have more photos from the shoot or of the model?
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« Reply #61 on: Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:22am »
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May, 1976
 
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Playgirl August 1974
« Reply #62 on: Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:41am »
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #63 on: Apr 25th, 2011, 3:47pm »
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MORE PLEASE!!!!
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« Reply #64 on: Apr 26th, 2011, 9:03am »
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on Apr 25th, 2011, 3:47pm, Boner wrote:
MORE PLEASE!!!!

Here, here!
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Re: Playgirl August 1974
« Reply #65 on: Apr 30th, 2011, 4:59pm »
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on Apr 2nd, 2011, 10:41am, GregBoston wrote:
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what makes this picture awesome is that it looks so perfectly natural and they make a (non staged) happy impression.
it is like it should be. maybe he left his clothes somewhere and they are gone when he wants to dress...
i hope my girlfriend will take me for a nude walk someday...
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« Reply #66 on: Apr 30th, 2011, 8:56pm »
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Agreed.  
 
The thing that makes the CFNM in Playgirrl of the 70s so great is there is this sense of the woman being sort of an accessory in the revolution of men appearing nude.  It is like she was saying "This is Playgirl, everybody knows what time it is.  My job is to present this wonderful specimen of manhood to my fellow sisters."  
 
Also, many female letter writers to Playgirl and Viva expressed the sentiment that they liked women in the pictorials because a) it "proved" that the man wasnt an oddball, lonely, gay or a stalker.
b)  the woman in the picture helped them have better fantasies, i.e. they could identify with the woman in the photo.
 
on Apr 30th, 2011, 4:59pm, kobalt_80 wrote:

 
what makes this picture awesome is that it looks so perfectly natural and they make a (non staged) happy impression.
it is like it should be. maybe he left his clothes somewhere and they are gone when he wants to dress...
i hope my girlfriend will take me for a nude walk someday...

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« Reply #67 on: May 1st, 2011, 6:06pm »
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Thanks! This stuff is great!
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #68 on: May 2nd, 2011, 1:13am »
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are you sure, this is playgirl magazine ?  I didn't know they were allowed to show erect penises.   I thought that Playgirl was similar to Playboy.
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #69 on: May 10th, 2011, 12:56pm »
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on May 2nd, 2011, 1:13am, Dan2 wrote:
are you sure, this is playgirl magazine ? I didn't know they were allowed to show erect penises. I thought that Playgirl was similar to Playboy.

 
Playgirl does show some of the male models with erections - that's one reason it's so much fun.  Grin  Flaccid is fine of course, but it's nice to see men looking fully masculine.
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #70 on: May 10th, 2011, 7:58pm »
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on May 10th, 2011, 12:56pm, Chilled_Jill wrote:

 
Playgirl does show some of the male models with erections - that's one reason it's so much fun. Grin Flaccid is fine of course, but it's nice to see men looking fully masculine.

 
So Jill were you a subscriber or occasional buyer of Playgirl?
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« Reply #71 on: May 10th, 2011, 9:37pm »
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on May 2nd, 2011, 1:13am, Dan2 wrote:
are you sure, this is playgirl magazine ? I didn't know they were allowed to show erect penises. I thought that Playgirl was similar to Playboy.

 
I assume you're commenting about Playboy never showing vaginas and comparing it to not showing erections.
 
Its not that Playboy couldn't show it, plenty of magazines do, its just that Hugh Hefner doesn't want to. Its not that type of magazine.
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #72 on: May 14th, 2011, 2:21pm »
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Well, Playboy at first did not, back when Hefner started it to make his fortune.  This was groundbreaking within itself.  In the early 60's he could not have done so with a storm of protest from the morality hounds in America descending in greater force on him than they did.  When he finally did show it all -- somewhere around the late 60's -- society was more accepting of it.  
 
For the same reason, PLaygirl, as revolutionary in its time as sibling mag was, did not show the guy's feature that every girl was intoSmiley, standing at full-dress attention.  it took a long time for that to develope, just as it did for playboy.
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« Reply #73 on: Jun 7th, 2011, 2:05am »
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on Apr 2nd, 2011, 6:18am, syud21 wrote:

 

 

 

 
I think the shoot is definitely one of the best by Playgirl.
Does anyone have more photos from the shoot or of the model?

 
I have the full pic set of this model. He is handsome, in a quirky way. Not my cup of tea really.
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« Reply #74 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 11:48am »
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Check out these links, many couples photo-sets....
 
 
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uu3oin
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/7dz5br (2000s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/l6je02 (1990s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uwhhv3 (1980s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uqlmvb (1970s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/4to6b4 (Non-PG videos)  
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« Reply #75 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 4:50pm »
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Thanks wrecker!  Since I cant download anything where I am at right now, I am curious, does "complete issues" mean the print stories of the magazine too (i.e. the whole mag "cover-to-cover"), or just the pictorial?  Thanks!on Jun 29th, 2011, 11:48am, wrecker wrote:
Check out these links, many couples photo-sets....
 
 
 
 
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uu3oin
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/7dz5br (2000s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/l6je02 (1990s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uwhhv3 (1980s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uqlmvb (1970s complete issues)
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« Reply #76 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 5:34pm »
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No print, other than what accompanies the photo-sets.
 
I don't particularily like looking at just naked guys, but the thought of posing for a woman photographer and her female crew while completely naked is rather exciting!
 
Surf through them, you'll find all the couples sets. Check back once in a while, there are new issues added once in a while.
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Re: Playgirl's CFNM scene
« Reply #77 on: Jun 29th, 2011, 6:28pm »
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on Jun 29th, 2011, 11:48am, wrecker wrote:
Check out these links, many couples photo-sets....
 
 
 
 
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uu3oin
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/7dz5br (2000s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/l6je02 (1990s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uwhhv3 (1980s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/uqlmvb (1970s complete issues)
http://www.sendspace.com/folder/4to6b4 (Non-PG videos)  

 
You wouldn't happen to have the May 1986 issue with the Valerie Bertinelli interview, would you?  I've been dying to read that interview since the issue came out but I didn't have the guts to buy it at the newsstand and I could never order it.  I just want the interview.  I don't really care about the rest of the magazine.
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« Reply #78 on: Jul 6th, 2011, 4:22pm »
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I've started to go through the links to the Playgirl magazine jpegs that wrecker gave us (thanks wrecker) and am finding CFNM shots here and there. This is the first time I'm trying to use an image hosting site for the pictures so I hope all goes well. In then past I used my website so I knew how to do that.
 
This is an article for strip chess. The two pictures are identical. The difference is that one has the text that was with the picture and the other is just a larger version without the text. I'm not sure if all interested have already looked at the pictures and downloaded the ones they wanted and this is just a waste of space or if I should keep doing this. I've looked through about 50 issues so far and this is the first CFNM show chronologically (sp?). It's the Feb 1973 issue and this was before Playgirl started publishing on a monthly basis.
 
It looks like the girl is winning at strip chess. The guy is already completely nude so I don't know what else he'll have to do if he loses. She looks confident and he looks a little worried.
 
Obvously this isn't the only picture taken that day by the photographer and I wish I could see the others. Who knows what dusty old pictures Playgirl has stored away that no one has looked at for over 30 years.
 
Let me know if I should keep doing this. There are a lot more CFNM shots mixed in with the mostly solo nude male shots and I have a lot of the CFNM ones saved on my harddrive.
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #79 on: Jul 6th, 2011, 5:57pm »
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« Reply #80 on: Jul 6th, 2011, 6:57pm »
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Excellent! Thanks mnowl. really appreciate you doing this. Please continue.
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« Reply #81 on: Jul 7th, 2011, 12:40am »
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Strip chess is ... almost victorian compared to today's porn standards. Good work as always Mr. Midnight Owl.
 
 
 
Please keep it up.
 
I would add how quaint the prose about the strip game is:
 
"the now internationally popular game for mixed couples .. strip chess. " Bet the phrase "mixed couple" will nowbe retired as obsolete, what with gay marriage.
 
 
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I've started to go through the links to the Playgirl magazine jpegs that wrecker gave us (thanks wrecker) and am finding CFNM shots here and there. This is the first time I'm trying to use an image hosting site for the pictures so I hope all goes well. In then past I used my website so I knew how to do that.
 
This is an article for strip chess. The two pictures are identical. The difference is that one has the text that was with the picture and the other is just a larger version without the text. I'm not sure if all interested have already looked at the pictures and downloaded the ones they wanted and this is just a waste of space or if I should keep doing this. I've looked through about 50 issues so far and this is the first CFNM show chronologically (sp?). It's the Feb 1973 issue and this was before Playgirl started publishing on a monthly basis.
 
It looks like the girl is winning at strip chess. The guy is already completely nude so I don't know what else he'll have to do if he loses. She looks confident and he looks a little worried.
 
Obvously this isn't the only picture taken that day by the photographer and I wish I could see the others. Who knows what dusty old pictures Playgirl has stored away that no one has looked at for over 30 years.
 
Let me know if I should keep doing this. There are a lot more CFNM shots mixed in with the mostly solo nude male shots and I have a lot of the CFNM ones saved on my harddrive.
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #82 on: Jul 7th, 2011, 4:19am »
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Thanks for the positive feedback Gaius8666, girlies and Ned. I'll keep it up and go in order. June of 1973 is when Playgirl started publishing on a monthly basis. In this issue there was a fashion pictorial where the female was modeling the clothes and the male was modeling his birthday suit. Playboy was doing this at the time, obviously with the genders reversed, so that might be where Playgirl got the idea. Who ever scanned these pictures in didn't scan this pictorial, unfortunately. I have the magazine in a box somewhere. The jpeg here is the table of contents for the issue and there is one picture from the pictorial. There are 4 or 5 more in the issue.  
 
 
 
There's not much else in this issue.
 
The July 1973 issue is frustrating because it sure looks like some CFNM situations were taking place during a photoshoot but the CF is never in the same shot as the NM.
 
Here's the opening page of the pictorial. The woman is very dressed and the guy is just in swim trunks and they are out on a boat. It seems certain she sat around and watched him as he posed nude but if the photographer caught any CFNM shots Playgirl didn't publish them.
 
 
 
 
 
You have to use your imagination a bit but the girl had to be sitting around watching the shoot.
 
 
 
For the August 1973 issue there was CFNM right on the cover. If my memory isn't failing me I'm pretty sure the girl in Jaime Lyn Bauer, an actress that starred in movies in the 70s such as The Centerfold Girls. She isn't wearing much, and what she is wearing is fairly see-through, but she does have something on and the guy is completely nude.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
We're still in the August issue. I was looking at all these pictures as small thumbnails looking for any hint of a female in the picture and deleting the pictures usually if there wasn't. This one I was about to delete but opened it to full size by accident, and what do you know; a clothed female sitting right next to the naked guy in the jeep.
 
 
 
As a result I started looking at this pictorial a lot closer and found this one where, as the guy poses nude on the jeep, you can barely see the girl in the background in the lower left. Too bad we can't get a better look at her.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #83 on: Jul 7th, 2011, 1:41pm »
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Ach, it's sad that we cannot make our own version of Playgirl on hereSmiley Can you just imagine the funSmiley
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« Reply #84 on: Jul 8th, 2011, 6:44pm »
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@mnowl
 
My various comments to various and sundry of your pics (excellent work, btw):
 
Look at her grabbing daintily for the waistband of her stripped-to-the-waist prey.
 
Look at the proud smile of the girl with her chin on the nude man's shoulder.  You wouldnt see quite the same ear-to-ear grin outside of 1970s innocence.
 
Jeeps are all stick-shift operated, you know.  Something tells me that this particular stick shift came unglued.    
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Final picture: she's checking on her sun-tan, she should be checking out his suntan.
 
You mentioned CFNM out-takes.  The whole thought of out-takes, including photos of the photographer setting up the model, stored in rows and rows of 70s style green file cabinets in the basement of Playgirl headquarters somewhere ... gives me shivers.  Any one of us subscribing to this thread who got "locked" in such a room would probably not eat or sleep for days!
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I think he's hiding a "piece" and she should lift him up and fetch it!  on Jul 7th, 2011, 12:40am, Ned wrote:
ip chess is ... almost victor=ian compoared todays standards. What with gay marriage the sentence Good work as always Mr. Midnight Owl.
 
 
 
Please keep it up.
 
I would add how quaint the prose about the strip game is:
 
"the now internationally popular game for mixed couples .. strip chess. " Bet the phrtase mixed couple will be retired now as obsolete.
 
 
 

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on Jul 7th, 2011, 1:41pm, poseforher wrote:
Ach, it's sad that we cannot make our own version of Playgirl on hereSmiley Can you just imagine the funSmiley
I've always wondered how much it would cost to just buy Playgirl from whatever corporation owns it now (I think the same people that publish High Society and other girlie magazines) and just have the real thing. Playgirl has been near bankruptcy at least once in its exsistance and the decision to end the print edition apparently caused a large decrease in their online subscribers. Its not well run because the people who own it publish other magazines and Playgirl is probably an after thought to them. Maybe if enough people got together and pooled their resources Playgirl could be brought back from the situation its in now. If I owned it there would be a lot more CFNM and NFNM content. I would market it heavily to females because the idea of females looking at it is what makes it interesting. I would publish 6 issues a year, so there would be a Jan/Feb issue, a March/April issue, and so on. The magazine itself would not be viewed as a source of profit but instead as a means to promote all the other things Playgirl could have his fingers on. Start a bunch of pay sites along with the main site, start producing videos with the Playgirl stamp, have a touring male strip show with your centerfolds as the stars, and other potential sources of profit. All Playgirl has to do is look at who was advertising in the magazine. Sharpshooter Studios advertised their nude male videos a lot in Playgirl, and they would emphasize the fact that Playgirl models were in the videos. Playgirl should start producing these types of videos and use the magazine to really push them. One thing Playboy use to do in the 70s is publish pictorial/essays on movies that were about to be released to theaters. Actresses that were to appear in the movie would pose nude for Playboy photographers and there would be stills from the movie usually containing nudity. All this would be accompanied an essay about the film. My all time favorite is the one Playboy did for Pretty Maids All in a Row in the April 1971 issue (I'm pretty sure the opening shot is the first picture I ever saw in Playboy when I discovered my dad's hiding place). With Playgirl you could start producing low-budget films and audition actors with it being known before hand that one of the requirements would be that they would have to pose for Playgirl magazine as well as doing a lot of nudity in the film. This way Playgirl could actually take a hand in making their own male celebrities that have posed for the magazine. That seems to have been one of the main complaints from the female editors; that Playboy can get female celebrities to pose nude but Playgirl can't get male celebrities to pose nude. My strategy would be to scout for unknown male actors with potential, get them naked early and often in the magazine and the low budget movies in lots of CFNM situations, and promote the heck out of them. As for web sites right now Playboy seems to have an endless number its promoting. I belong to the Cyber Club but there are a lot of others they are trying to get me to subscribe to. Along with their main site Playgirl could start others that would be focused to specific interests. A Playgirl CFNM site would be the best if it was done right. They could blow CFNM.net right out of the water. These sites wouldn't have to be closely identified with Playgirl, but the magazine and Playgirl's other online sources could be used to promote them. the Straight Guys For Gay Eyes site bought the whole back cover to promote itself in Playgirl. That's another example of the type of site Playgirl could start and promote, though keep a bit of a distance in case some in the female audience wouldn't be too thrilled. I would hit the college campuses hard, to promote the magazine and all the other operations to college girls, and look for male and female models at the same time. Hand out the magazine all over and have the male centerfolds sign the issues and put on a show. Bottomline is that Playgirl should look at the magazine as something that would be high quality, looking to go back more to its 70s roots, but get it into as many hands as possible to promote everything else Playgirl could have going on.
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on Jul 8th, 2011, 6:44pm, Ned wrote:
 You mentioned CFNM out-takes. The whole thought of out-takes, including photos of the photographer setting up the model, stored in rows and rows of 70s style green file cabinets in the basement of Playgirl headquarters somewhere ... gives me shivers. Any one of us subscribing to this thread who got "locked" in such a room would probably not eat or sleep for days!
 
 
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Seriously I think the next time those who own Playgirl start acting like they are going to shut it down a bunch of us here should see what it would cost to take it over, or go to someone rich with a business plan and see if we can run the magazine better (I'm sure we could).
 
We would then have access to everything Playgirl has in its archives. And again, follow Playboy's model. On the website Playboy is publishing pictures from old pictorials including pictures that were never published. One difference is that Playboy has stayed in the hands of the same person and Playgirl has changed ownershuip a few time in its history so Playgrls archives may not be as well organized. Another thing to do would be to commission a documentary about the history of Playgirl then go to all the local stations in the different markets and see what footage they might have. I know the San Francisco stations use to have Playgirl models on some of their local talk shows and would send camera crews out to the shoots. That same thing had to have happened in New York, Chicago, LA, Seattle and all over. Also national shows like Phil Donohue use to do programs about Playgirl fairly often. There's probably a ton of raw footage, unedited for TV, sitting out there in storage.
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The truth is that there isn't a market for Playgirl.  Even Playboy is heading for extinction.  Most women don't want to look at pictures of naked men.  Gay guys have a gazillion billion gay things to look at.  Most of us don't want to look at pictures of naked men unless there are women in the pictures looking at them.  Who's going to buy the magazine?  The few hundred of us?
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Here's the cover for the September 1973 issue. No CFNM on it but I thought I'd include the cover for each issue from here on.
   
 
And this is it for the CFNM in this issue (at least what was scanned). The male model is completely nude and trying to look down the girl's top.
 
   
 
 
 
Here's the October 1973 issue. The CFNM couple on the cover appear inside.
 
 
 
 
 
And here's the pictorial inside. There are no pictures of the girl nude so she may have stayed clothed the whole time. Her name is Belle Johnson. I always like to see if a female model in Playgirl appeared anywhere else but can't find anything for her. The guy is Michael Montegomery. The text says that these were taken during a scuba diving trip to the island of Cosumel in Mexico
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
That appears to be it for the October issue, but that was quite a lot compared to other issues.
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Just click on a photo cell. The full album of GREAT pics is here: http://www.pimpandhost.com/album/996290-PGCFNM.html

 
 
The difference between the 1970's and recent images is like night and day.  The modern images are all geared towards gays, with the women relegated so far in the  background as be almost non-existent.
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on Jul 8th, 2011, 9:55pm, Anon wrote:
The truth is that there isn't a market for Playgirl. Even Playboy is heading for extinction. Most women don't want to look at pictures of naked men. Gay guys have a gazillion billion gay things to look at. Most of us don't want to look at pictures of naked men unless there are women in the pictures looking at them. Who's going to buy the magazine? The few hundred of us?

 
 
Most women don't have the same desire to look at nude men that most men have to look at nude women, but there are more than 150,000,000 women in the United States alone, so even a small percentage would still leave you with a lot of women who would want to buy the magazine if it was geared more towards them.
 
Back in the 70s Playgirl's paid circulation was over a million. According to this old newspaper article about Viva dropping male nudes Playgirl's circulation was about 1.2 million.
 
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ngwuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cqEFAAAAIBAJ& amp;pg=964,1662729&dq=playgirl+circulation&hl=en
 
By 1980, according to this article, Playgirl's circulation had reached 4 million.
 
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=IX8pAAAAIBAJ&sjid=IWUFAAAAIBAJ& amp;pg=1801,520532&dq=playgirl+circulation&hl=en
 
I remember in high school not only would the guys sneak Playboys, Penhouses and Hustlers to school but some of the girls would sneak Playgirls to school and keep them in their lockers. You could sometimes see a number of them gathered around a locker looking at an issue and keeping an eye out that no authority figures were near.
 
Now a lot of that may have been payback since guys had magaines they could ogle and drool over and now the girls had something, and maybe that didn't last for a lot of them, but even by the late 80s and early 90s Playgirl would publish its paid circulation and I seem to remember the numbers being around 400,000 to 600,000. A number of ex-Playgirl editors would be asked about the gay readership and the highest percentage I ever saw was around 50% in recent years, so if the paid circulation then was around 400,000 that would mean there were about 200,000 women going out of their way to buy the magazine if you take the 50% for that period. I think the percentage of women buying the magazine was a lot greater back then.
 
Playgirl lost its way at some point and the circulation started dropping but still the lowest estimate I ever read was about 120,000. Going with the high end estimate of gay readership that still leaves 60,000 women. And this would have been during a period when the magazine was not that easy to find and the magazine didn't do a good job promoting itself.
 
Back about 1987 I worked at a bookstore that carried Playgirl. We would get about 25 Playboys, maybe 20 Penthouses and about 10 Playgirls when the issues arrived. We would end up with a few Playboys and Penthouses left over when the new issues came in but the Playgirls were almost always gone, and it was 100% women I saw buying the magazine. Women would come in and grab the magaszine and flip through it and take their time. I always thought it would be a good idea to take the Playgirls out of the adult section (which was often population by guys looking through the girlie magazines) and put it in the women's section next to Cosmo, but company policy forbid that.
 
In Playboy's Cyber Club they have archived the chats members have had with Playboy models. Doing a search on Playgirl shows that members have asked the girls if they have ever looked at a Playgirl. Only a few of them have seen or looked at the magazine, some had never heard of it (we're talking about women who posed fully nude for Playboy, not Bible Belt Sunday school teachers). A few said that they didn't want to look at men as sex objects, even though they had no problem being sex objects for men. Most seemed to feel the magazine was for gay males. One of my favorite Playmates in recent years, Kelly Carrington (Miss October 200Cool said she heard that the magazine was "queer".
 
 
At some point Playgirl decided, I guess, to pander more to the gay readership and that's where theylost a lot of their female readers. I think as long as there were good looking nude men in the magazine the gay readership would still be there even if the magazine went back to making women its main target.
 
And again, if I ran Playgirl I would simply try to get the magaszine out there under as many eyes as possible and use it to promote websites, DVDs, sex toys, lingerie, and a bunch of other stuff Playgirl could have under its corporate umbrella. The pictorials would be very heavy with CFNM and NFNM pictorials and the women would be shown enjoying the sight of a naked man.
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By 1980, according to this article, Playgirl's circulation had reached 4 million.
 
 
I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Playgirl ever had a circulation of 4 million. Playboy's highest circulation was 7.2 million in 1972 (http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-writers-published-in-playboy.php) which is believable.  Off the top of my head I would have said between 5 and 6 million.  Playgirl was invisible compared to Playboy.  I'd be surprised if they ever hit 4 million sales a year, let alone 4 million a month.
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Here's the cover for the November 1973 issue. It appears to be NFNM on the cover but this same couple goes CFNM inside. The female is  Adele Yoshioka and the male is Nicholas Cortland.
 
 
 
 
Warning: The next picture is NFNM but I liked it so I included it. She does have a towel on her head. The guy is actor Don Stroud. At this time Playgirl could get male celebrities to pose nude.
 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835144/
 
 
 
 
 
Here's Greg Wainwright in one CFNM shot I've seen posted here before, but now we know where its from.
 
 
 
 
Here's a fantasy pictorial called Morning Becomes You. The guy is completely nude and the girl is somewhat covered.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Here's the couple from the cover, Adele Yoshioka and Nicholas Cortland. She may have been nude for the cover shot but she has some clothes on here.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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The difference between the 1970's and recent images is like night and day. The modern images are all geared towards gays, with the women relegated so far in the background as be almost non-existent.

Hate to disappoint you, but there has ALWAYS been a gay following--we liked our men hairy and butch.  We like our men to be MANLY.  We were probably as large a target market as women.  Before gay men had access to such magazines as Honcho, Torso, Inches, Blueboy, and Mandate, we enjoyed the men of Playgirl, though most likely from the midnight newsstand than from subscription.
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Hate to disappoint you, but there has ALWAYS been a gay following--we liked our men hairy and butch.

 
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Here's the cover for the December 1973 issue with CFNM right on the cover. The models are Deborah Triplett and Michael Shapiro. These two appear inside, with him still nude and her still clothed.  
 
 
 
 Here's the table of contents for the issue. The bottom picture is also from a CFNM pictorial inside so, even though we only see heads, we know the female is clothed and the male is nude.  
 

 
 This pictorial is called Celebration. The girl doesn't appear nude in any of the pictures.  
 

   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Here's a fashion pictorial where the females are modeling clothes and the males are nude:
   
 
 
 
Here's another page from the same pictorial, and there is also another shot of Deborah Triplett and Michael Shapiro. I have this issue somewhere and there is another shot of these two where he is nude in a sitting position and she is standing with one of her shoes on his back. That one didn't get scanned by the source.  
 
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